2 processors or 4

**Tonk** · 09-05-2007, 01:34 AM

so im pondering the thought of building a new rig,
but im stuck on my choice of CPUs
should i go with a quad q6700.. or a duo 6850,

quad/duo core
2.66/3.00 ghz
1066/1333 fsb
$319/$299 price
$400/$450 ram price

i only use my rig for gaming, i use windows XP (until vista64 comes out)
i dont know which is better... 4 slightly slower cores.. or 2 faster cores
when it was 1vs2 cores... 2 slower cores were better
when it was 32vs64 a slower 64bit proc was better, is quad the way to go?

stickyjeans69 · 09-05-2007, 02:48 AM

Neither, Both are ripoffs in the greatest sense known to man.

Go with the QX6600 or the C2D E6600, they overclock just as well as the 6800/6700 and they don't cost a grand

Depends, on a multithreaded program such as Flightsimulator Quad all the way. on a program that uses one core like BF2 clockspeeds are in favor of the slower

Both the processors u named however will very soon be outdated and the ones i mentioned above will lose you about 2FPS and about 15 seconds while encoding a video. if that 15 seconds means alot to you however, use that grand =)

ChopStick · 09-05-2007, 08:50 AM

he's talking about the Q6600 and E6850, which cost ~300$. Personally I went with the E6850, because for now it performs better with games and is faster. Once the quicker quad core come down in price (which they will if the Q6600 is any evidence), then I will upgrade.

IceCold · 09-05-2007, 08:54 AM

I'm not up to speed on multi core processors. Let me ask this simple question: Right now with my single core processor, if I leave three programs open, and then try to play certain games, I'll lag (even on single player games, so it's not a bandwidth issue). Would a quad core alleviate this problem, or are there other bottlenecks likely involved?

stickyjeans69 · 09-05-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by IceCold

I'm not up to speed on multi core processors. Let me ask this simple question: Right now with my single core processor, if I leave three programs open, and then try to play certain games, I'll lag (even on single player games, so it's not a bandwidth issue). Would a quad core alleviate this problem, or are there other bottlenecks likely involved?

in most cases, yes. you could say

Encode a Video on 2 cores, and then play a game on the other two. both very CPU intensive but the Quads will handle it.

**Anospa** · 09-05-2007, 09:13 AM

Uhmm, I'm pretty sure 64-bit Vista has been out this whole time, so no wait time on that.

Black_V!per · 09-05-2007, 10:18 AM

This will give you some more insight and a extra hand in deciding:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...uad-q6600.html

Benchmarks and reviews on both...

=Sarc= · 09-05-2007, 11:19 AM

I'd go with a dual core for now. The performance is pretty close right now but the dual core seems to be a bit better in gaming. There just aren't many games that utilize multi-core processors. I'm not sure why you list the RAM prices as different. The processors use motherboards that use the same RAM. Are you looking at DDR3 RAM or something?

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Originally Posted by IceCold

I'm not up to speed on multi core processors. Let me ask this simple question: Right now with my single core processor, if I leave three programs open, and then try to play certain games, I'll lag (even on single player games, so it's not a bandwidth issue). Would a quad core alleviate this problem, or are there other bottlenecks likely involved?

That sounds like your computer can't handle that game due to RAM. Unless the programs are doing something in the background, you're more likely to tax out your RAM instead of processor. If it's something like running a web browser while playing a game, I doubt a multi-core will help with gaming framerates. What are you running in the background that causes fps problems?

**Tonk** · 09-05-2007, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyjeans69

Neither, Both are ripoffs in the greatest sense known to man.

Go with the QX6600 or the C2D E6600, they overclock just as well as the 6800/6700 and they don't cost a grand

both the processors i listed are ballpark $300

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Originally Posted by =Sarc=

I'm not sure why you list the RAM prices as different. The processors use motherboards that use the same RAM. Are you looking at DDR3 RAM or something?

the 6850 uses 1333mhz ram, and the quad uses 1066,mhz ram

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Originally Posted by Black_V!per

This will give you some more insight and a extra hand in deciding:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...uad-q6600.html

Benchmarks and reviews on both...

awsome link, thankyou.. from what ive seen there ( under the 3d game section) quads arent really worth it unless they are overclocked, which i havent had much luck overclocking my current amd 4400 x2, i can only get it +15% before it doesnt post.... temps are fine, voltage seems normal.. no luck tho (any pointers... as i hyjack my own thread)

**Cappy** · 09-05-2007, 08:41 PM

Q6600 - around $289

E6600 - around $239

Polska · 09-05-2007, 08:53 PM

If the choice comes down to quad q6700 or a duo 6850 like other have said depends on you. One will outperform the other in certain applications/situations.

I just build a new rig 2 weeks ago and got the 6850. I will probably upgrade in 1-1.5 years, so I went for what *seems* faster right now. You will be happy with either, that I can assure you

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=Sarc= · 09-05-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonk

the 6850 uses 1333mhz ram, and the quad uses 1066,mhz ram

That's the FSB for the processor. The RAM does not have to match the FSB. You'd be fine using PC2-6400 RAM. Faster RAM is better but it all depends on the multiplier for the RAM and a motherboard that supports the speed. The 6850's FSB is 4x333Mhz and the other is 4x266Mhz.

You'd be surprised at how well Core 2's overclock. They're much better than AMD. I've overclocked my E6400 from 2.13Ghz to 3.0Ghz. That's pushing the FSB from 266 to 375Mhz.

**Tonk** · 09-06-2007, 12:08 AM

wont the system perform at its peak with the 1333 ram tho? more so than the 1066
also.. what brand mobo do you have, i think ASUS (mine) mobos dont allow OC well

**Tonk** · 09-06-2007, 12:36 AM

latest choices:

e6850 (dual core.. 3ghz)
asus p5k3 deluxe
MSI 8800Ultra OC
2 Gigs corsair (2 more later... $450 oofta)

grand total is a lil under $1700 (add a liberal $500 for what i currently have and you have a $2100 computer that dell/alienware/whatever would charge 5k for)
keeping same case and PSU dvdrom...ect

IceCold · 09-06-2007, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =Sarc=

What are you running in the background that causes fps problems?

The one that kicks my computer's butt is Trillian. I leave an IRC channel open all the time, and whenever people are chatting, I'll lag in a single player FPS game. It's just little stutters, but it's still annoying. I've got 2 Megs of RAM, so I didn't think that would be an issue. My current processor is an Athlon64, but I'm running 32bit WinXPpro.

Do you think a multi-core processor would help me?

09-05-2007, 01:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
Tonk Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Luck, WI USA Age: 22 Posts: 2,986	2 processors or 4 so im pondering the thought of building a new rig, but im stuck on my choice of CPUs should i go with a quad q6700.. or a duo 6850, quad/duo core 2.66/3.00 ghz 1066/1333 fsb $319/$299 price $400/$450 ram price i only use my rig for gaming, i use windows XP (until vista64 comes out) i dont know which is better... 4 slightly slower cores.. or 2 faster cores when it was 1vs2 cores... 2 slower cores were better when it was 32vs64 a slower 64bit proc was better, is quad the way to go? __________________ -Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in an attractive and well preserved body; but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a beer in the other, body totally worn out screaming "YEEEHAW, WHAT A RIDE!!!" - my grandpa -My New Rig: cpu: AMD 6400+ 3.2ghz dual core mobo: Asus Crosshair ram: 8gb (4x2gb) geil exotera 4-4-4-12 video card MSI 8800GTS 512mb (g92) Vista:x64 Laptop: Dell i9300 2.16ghz-2gb ram-6800-17" 1920x1200 -Toasty/Tonk/Chair http://tgtonk.notlong.com

09-05-2007, 02:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
stickyjeans69 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: California Posts: 706	Re: 2 processors or 4 Neither, Both are ripoffs in the greatest sense known to man. Go with the QX6600 or the C2D E6600, they overclock just as well as the 6800/6700 and they don't cost a grand Depends, on a multithreaded program such as Flightsimulator Quad all the way. on a program that uses one core like BF2 clockspeeds are in favor of the slower Both the processors u named however will very soon be outdated and the ones i mentioned above will lose you about 2FPS and about 15 seconds while encoding a video. if that 15 seconds means alot to you however, use that grand =) __________________

09-05-2007, 08:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
ChopStick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Age: 21 Posts: 289	Re: 2 processors or 4 he's talking about the Q6600 and E6850, which cost ~300$. Personally I went with the E6850, because for now it performs better with games and is faster. Once the quicker quad core come down in price (which they will if the Q6600 is any evidence), then I will upgrade.

09-05-2007, 08:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
IceCold Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 716	Re: 2 processors or 4 I'm not up to speed on multi core processors. Let me ask this simple question: Right now with my single core processor, if I leave three programs open, and then try to play certain games, I'll lag (even on single player games, so it's not a bandwidth issue). Would a quad core alleviate this problem, or are there other bottlenecks likely involved? __________________

09-05-2007, 09:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
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09-05-2007, 10:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
Black_V!per Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kingman AZ. Age: 20 Posts: 1,445	Re: 2 processors or 4 This will give you some more insight and a extra hand in deciding: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...uad-q6600.html Benchmarks and reviews on both... __________________ Start counting, when you reach infinity tell me. If you can read this you've got to much time on your hands.

09-05-2007, 08:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cappy Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washing County, Pa. Age: 42 Posts: 964	Re: 2 processors or 4 Q6600 - around $289 E6600 - around $239 __________________ \|TG-6th\| Cappy BF2 Rules\|Teamspeak Info\|Become a Supporting Member\|The 6th Devil's Brigade\|TG Primer

09-05-2007, 08:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Polska Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 26 Posts: 715	Re: 2 processors or 4 If the choice comes down to quad q6700 or a duo 6850 like other have said depends on you. One will outperform the other in certain applications/situations. I just build a new rig 2 weeks ago and got the 6850. I will probably upgrade in 1-1.5 years, so I went for what seems faster right now. You will be happy with either, that I can assure you . __________________ I love gaming, mmmmmmmm

09-06-2007, 12:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
Tonk Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Luck, WI USA Age: 22 Posts: 2,986	Re: 2 processors or 4 wont the system perform at its peak with the 1333 ram tho? more so than the 1066 also.. what brand mobo do you have, i think ASUS (mine) mobos dont allow OC well __________________ -Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in an attractive and well preserved body; but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a beer in the other, body totally worn out screaming "YEEEHAW, WHAT A RIDE!!!" - my grandpa -My New Rig: cpu: AMD 6400+ 3.2ghz dual core mobo: Asus Crosshair ram: 8gb (4x2gb) geil exotera 4-4-4-12 video card MSI 8800GTS 512mb (g92) Vista:x64 Laptop: Dell i9300 2.16ghz-2gb ram-6800-17" 1920x1200 -Toasty/Tonk/Chair http://tgtonk.notlong.com

09-06-2007, 12:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tonk Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Luck, WI USA Age: 22 Posts: 2,986	Re: 2 processors or 4 latest choices: e6850 (dual core.. 3ghz) asus p5k3 deluxe MSI 8800Ultra OC 2 Gigs corsair (2 more later... $450 oofta) grand total is a lil under $1700 (add a liberal $500 for what i currently have and you have a $2100 computer that dell/alienware/whatever would charge 5k for) keeping same case and PSU dvdrom...ect __________________ -Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in an attractive and well preserved body; but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a beer in the other, body totally worn out screaming "YEEEHAW, WHAT A RIDE!!!" - my grandpa -My New Rig: cpu: AMD 6400+ 3.2ghz dual core mobo: Asus Crosshair ram: 8gb (4x2gb) geil exotera 4-4-4-12 video card MSI 8800GTS 512mb (g92) Vista:x64 Laptop: Dell i9300 2.16ghz-2gb ram-6800-17" 1920x1200 -Toasty/Tonk/Chair http://tgtonk.notlong.com

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