Time for vista upgrade? - Page 2

=Sarc= · 10-04-2007, 08:40 AM

I don't see a reason to go 64-bit just because your processor can do 64-bit. All the new processors support 64-bit now. It's quite normal to not take advantage of it. The advantages of it don't outweight the disadvantages right now for the average user. Give it a few more years before jumping on the 64-bit bandwagon.

Acreo Aeneas · 10-04-2007, 09:16 AM

According to friendly DIYers in my area, the OEM license allows you to reinstall as many times as necessary as long as you don't swap out your motherboard. In which case, you'll need to contact MS and explain that your motherboard died and that you really need to reinstall. No one I've talked to has had to swap out his mobo yet, but I'm guessing it'll involve a similar reactivation over-the-phone procedure as for XP.

Of course, I haven't read the OEM license, so I can't tell you how accurate the above is. Perhaps someone can verify (Sarc? < unless he has the university copy like I do)?

Zoopy · 10-04-2007, 09:20 AM

He does, and the MSNDAA version is the retail version.

Acreo Aeneas · 10-04-2007, 10:31 AM

It is? Oiy, I gotta go and download the Business version then. I wonder...does it allow me to resell?

Zoopy · 10-04-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Acreo Aeneas

It is? Oiy, I gotta go and download the Business version then. I wonder...does it allow me to resell?

Well, I used my MSDNAA cd key to get a 64bit DVD from Microsoft, which isn't allowed by OEM versions.

Also if your school offers the DVD and cd version, then you got two cd keys.

**RandomGuy** · 10-04-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Snail88

And i download stuff a LOT quicker than on XP.

Why do you suppose that is?

Zoopy · 10-04-2007, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Why do you suppose that is?

Vista has a updated network stack and networking protocols compared to XP.

**marstein** · 10-05-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoopy_T

Vista has a updated network stack and networking protocols compared to XP.

There is a problem in Vista when multimedia apps are running the networking capacity is reduced.

In addition:

* Drivers for older devices are sometimes not available (e.g. Creative < X-fi)
* Performance is still about 10% worse than XP
* Drivers in general are not good quality it appears

For me this manifests itself in some devices that I love not working very well or at all (soundcard and ergodex) and lags during gameplay. I hope SP1 clears things up.

Acreo Aeneas · 10-05-2007, 08:41 PM

There's been a question on the back of my mind in regards to Vista Business Version, does it come with the Media Center edition package like Home Premium and Ultimate does?

I wanted to know before I went and downloaded it from my school's network resource. Plus, as far as I could ask, there is no physical copy for me to get other than the one I can download.

=Sarc= · 10-05-2007, 08:53 PM

Vista Business has no media stuff... but it's free from your school! I'm sure you can find some other sort of replacement for media.

Acreo Aeneas · 10-06-2007, 01:41 AM

Eh, I'll download a copy anyways. I like the feel of Vista in part because of the Media Center edition stuff. It'll feel empty without it.

How much space does it take up by the way (Business version)? I know Ultimate can take up to 50 GB or so.

=Sarc= · 10-06-2007, 09:38 AM

Definitely not 50GB. I have a 40GB partition for it and it's got 4.6GB free after installing a lot of apps along with Vista (stuff like Visual Studio, Eclipse, iTunes, MSN Live, Opera, MS Office). I think I accidentally installed the Titan Quest expansion on it too.

Acreo Aeneas · 10-06-2007, 10:10 AM

Oh, okay. So about how much of that 44 GB is actually the Vista install?

=Sarc= · 10-06-2007, 02:22 PM

I think it was around 10GB used after the install. Now that I've installed a bunch of devices and their drivers, the Windows directory takes up 12GB. I guess Business is significantly lesser featured than Ultimate. lol

Acreo Aeneas · 10-06-2007, 02:52 PM

Heh, I don't plan on getting Ultimate, but Home Premium is on my list.

I'll keep my MSDNAA copy of Business handy in case drivers for Vista stabilizes.

10-04-2007, 08:40 AM	#16 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,600	Re: Time for vista upgrade? I don't see a reason to go 64-bit just because your processor can do 64-bit. All the new processors support 64-bit now. It's quite normal to not take advantage of it. The advantages of it don't outweight the disadvantages right now for the average user. Give it a few more years before jumping on the 64-bit bandwagon. __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

10-04-2007, 09:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,547	Re: Time for vista upgrade? According to friendly DIYers in my area, the OEM license allows you to reinstall as many times as necessary as long as you don't swap out your motherboard. In which case, you'll need to contact MS and explain that your motherboard died and that you really need to reinstall. No one I've talked to has had to swap out his mobo yet, but I'm guessing it'll involve a similar reactivation over-the-phone procedure as for XP. Of course, I haven't read the OEM license, so I can't tell you how accurate the above is. Perhaps someone can verify (Sarc? < unless he has the university copy like I do)? __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th MID Member Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs.

10-04-2007, 09:20 AM	#18 (permalink)
Zoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,870	Re: Time for vista upgrade? He does, and the MSNDAA version is the retail version.

10-04-2007, 10:31 AM	#19 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,547	Re: Time for vista upgrade? It is? Oiy, I gotta go and download the Business version then. I wonder...does it allow me to resell? __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th MID Member Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs.

10-05-2007, 08:41 PM	#24 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,547	Re: Time for vista upgrade? There's been a question on the back of my mind in regards to Vista Business Version, does it come with the Media Center edition package like Home Premium and Ultimate does? I wanted to know before I went and downloaded it from my school's network resource. Plus, as far as I could ask, there is no physical copy for me to get other than the one I can download. __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th MID Member Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs.

10-05-2007, 08:53 PM	#25 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,600	Re: Time for vista upgrade? Vista Business has no media stuff... but it's free from your school! I'm sure you can find some other sort of replacement for media. __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

10-06-2007, 01:41 AM	#26 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,547	Re: Time for vista upgrade? Eh, I'll download a copy anyways. I like the feel of Vista in part because of the Media Center edition stuff. It'll feel empty without it. How much space does it take up by the way (Business version)? I know Ultimate can take up to 50 GB or so. __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th MID Member Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs.

10-06-2007, 09:38 AM	#27 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,600	Re: Time for vista upgrade? Definitely not 50GB. I have a 40GB partition for it and it's got 4.6GB free after installing a lot of apps along with Vista (stuff like Visual Studio, Eclipse, iTunes, MSN Live, Opera, MS Office). I think I accidentally installed the Titan Quest expansion on it too. __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

10-06-2007, 10:10 AM	#28 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,547	Re: Time for vista upgrade? Oh, okay. So about how much of that 44 GB is actually the Vista install? __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th MID Member Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs.

10-06-2007, 02:22 PM	#29 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,600	Re: Time for vista upgrade? I think it was around 10GB used after the install. Now that I've installed a bunch of devices and their drivers, the Windows directory takes up 12GB. I guess Business is significantly lesser featured than Ultimate. lol __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

10-06-2007, 02:52 PM	#30 (permalink)
Acreo Aeneas Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DePaul University (Chicago) Age: 22 Posts: 4,547	Re: Time for vista upgrade? Heh, I don't plan on getting Ultimate, but Home Premium is on my list. I'll keep my MSDNAA copy of Business handy in case drivers for Vista stabilizes. __________________ Acreo_Aeneas Former 9th MID Member Current Obsessions: Netbooks and other low-cost, small, and portable PCs.

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