Updated to 0.2.0

**kormendi** · 03-31-2008, 11:19 AM

I was right in the middle of queuing up a pillage and I'm told I ran out of action points

**Long Bow** · 03-31-2008, 11:23 AM

Yeah it just got implimented. The action points seems like it will cripple shipping between colonies now.

**Tarenth** · 03-31-2008, 11:26 AM

BOO! 0.2.0 exponentially increased the cost of establishing and maintaining colonies!

Pre 0.2.0 you only needed to expand your palace to set up new colonies

Post 0.2.0 you need to expand your palace to set up new colonies AND you need 1 mansion in each colony equal level to your palace to negate corruption. That means to have 2 colonies you need the equivalent of 3 level 2 palaces.

**MDFubar** · 03-31-2008, 11:37 AM

Soooooooooo, how do you get more action points?????? I think this was just stupid...lol. Although it does regulate "chain-pillaging".

**UnDeaD77** · 03-31-2008, 11:40 AM

You need to keep upgrading your town hall, every 5 levels brings you another action point.

My town hall is level 13, and I only have 5 total points. I believe the game gives you a default of 2 or 3 starting out.

**draeh** · 03-31-2008, 11:42 AM

http://board.ikariam.com/thread.php?...7952#post17952

Looks like action points limit the number of simultaneous ship/army movements and are returned when that movement is complete.

**Rincewind** · 03-31-2008, 11:59 AM

Action points are no fun at all. Who's bright idea was that any way?

**Tarenth** · 03-31-2008, 12:28 PM

Well it does encourage use of the trading post I guess. I don't think purchases automatically made via the trading post require action points so higher level posts may now be more useful.

On the inverse since it imposes such sever restrictions on off market trades and colonization it'll make resources harder to acquire. That leads to larger stockpiles of resources in cities which then leads to more successful (if fewer) pillages.

Though there is probably an exploit in all that conjecture. If trade post purchases aren't limited by action points then that means if your settlements are close together you can put the goods you want to send for sale at an extremely high price and then buy it yourself to transfer the goods without expending any gold.

Oh yeah, since action points are also redeemed when the action is completed that means military treaties will have more meaning. If you were to attack a distant island then you would lose the use of your action point until your force returns. However if you station an expeditionary force closer to the target you will get your action points back faster and thus be able to make more sorties.

**machowner** · 03-31-2008, 12:37 PM

I don't know, I'll have to figure out if this is a good change or not.

**Tarenth** · 03-31-2008, 12:42 PM

Yeah, the jury is still out on that verdict at the moment. As it stands now it radically changes key game play elements, but it does so in a way that expands upon previously overlooked features in the game.

I just wish they nuked the cost of the GR and just have the palace upgrade scale with cost and make up the difference.

BTW, if you haven't built palaces/GRs yet in your colonies then you need to get started and fast. The current rate is actually the lowest rate of corruption we'll see and it will quickly scale up until it reaches the point the developers want. Consider it the 'grace period' right now for the change. If you don't counter corruption now you may see stagnation and difficulties later on. I feel especially bad for people who have sent colonies long distance because that means you'll tie up action points shuttling enough resources to build and upgrade your GR up to specs.

**MDFubar** · 03-31-2008, 12:53 PM

My GR is being built now in my colony....wasted no time with this one.

**Tarenth** · 03-31-2008, 01:09 PM

Well the trading post idea got kicked in the head. As soon as I had enough APs to give it a shot I tried it out. 1 AP is expended by the buyer for every trade you accept.

**draeh** · 03-31-2008, 01:12 PM

Time at the top of the game is now displayed in server time. At least we will be able to tell each other shipment times without the need for a time mathematics exercise.

RedTalon · 03-31-2008, 01:14 PM

Just confirmed this, Buying at a trade post requires action points. So any action where you have to send a ship/troop requires an action point.

Although some good news. You get actions points back when the trade/battle finishes not when your ships return home. So long live chain pillaging!

**Tarenth** · 03-31-2008, 01:26 PM

Meh...they just stopped the time readjustments after loading draeh. Pre-patch you could still see server time when you reloaded a page, but a few seconds later it'd readjust to quasi-local time for some reason. Its a nice change since I don't have a keep reloading to get accurate ETAs.

03-31-2008, 11:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
kormendi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 26 Posts: 2,142	Updated to 0.2.0 I was right in the middle of queuing up a pillage and I'm told I ran out of action points __________________ Team Fortress 2 Admin \| NS Admin PM me if you have any questions/concerns regarding the server.

03-31-2008, 11:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
Long Bow Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 29 Posts: 1,070	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 Yeah it just got implimented. The action points seems like it will cripple shipping between colonies now. __________________

03-31-2008, 11:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tarenth Join Date: May 2006 Location: California Posts: 2,087	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 BOO! 0.2.0 exponentially increased the cost of establishing and maintaining colonies! Pre 0.2.0 you only needed to expand your palace to set up new colonies Post 0.2.0 you need to expand your palace to set up new colonies AND you need 1 mansion in each colony equal level to your palace to negate corruption. That means to have 2 colonies you need the equivalent of 3 level 2 palaces. __________________ My sanity is not in question... It was a confirmed casualty some time ago. \|TG\|Tarenth Battlefield 2142 Mirra World of Warcraft Light, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they ticked me off.

03-31-2008, 11:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
MDFubar Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Castle, DE Age: 40 Posts: 1,593	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 Soooooooooo, how do you get more action points?????? I think this was just stupid...lol. Although it does regulate "chain-pillaging". __________________ "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - General George Patton Jr

03-31-2008, 11:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
UnDeaD77 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Age: 22 Posts: 5,709	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 You need to keep upgrading your town hall, every 5 levels brings you another action point. My town hall is level 13, and I only have 5 total points. I believe the game gives you a default of 2 or 3 starting out. __________________ Call Of Duty Admin - Contact Me Report a Player or Banned From Our Servers? Call of Duty - Official Rules, Announcements & SOPs

03-31-2008, 11:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
draeh Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Austintown, Ohio Age: 35 Posts: 2,144	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 http://board.ikariam.com/thread.php?...7952#post17952 Looks like action points limit the number of simultaneous ship/army movements and are returned when that movement is complete. __________________ Ikariam (Alpha) Toruos[44:84]>Non Sequitur(c)-Sulfur :: Nyyos[44:85]>Obesa Cantavit-Wine Tiaayos[43:84]>Stercus Accidit-Marble :: Emytia[45:85]>Vacca Foeda-Crystal * Dirtboy's 2142 Evolution * Improving Situational Awareness! My Screenies - My Webpage - Xfire - Vimeo!

03-31-2008, 11:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rincewind Join Date: May 2005 Location: Casting useless spells in Oklahoma. Age: 27 Posts: 2,668	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 Action points are no fun at all. Who's bright idea was that any way? __________________ ~~ Veritas simplex oratio est ~~ No matter how far a wizard goes, he will always come back for his hat. --T. Pratchett <---- You know you're getting old when you rely on your forum meta-data to remind you how old you are. Required Reading for all TG sandboxers

03-31-2008, 12:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tarenth Join Date: May 2006 Location: California Posts: 2,087	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 Well it does encourage use of the trading post I guess. I don't think purchases automatically made via the trading post require action points so higher level posts may now be more useful. On the inverse since it imposes such sever restrictions on off market trades and colonization it'll make resources harder to acquire. That leads to larger stockpiles of resources in cities which then leads to more successful (if fewer) pillages. Though there is probably an exploit in all that conjecture. If trade post purchases aren't limited by action points then that means if your settlements are close together you can put the goods you want to send for sale at an extremely high price and then buy it yourself to transfer the goods without expending any gold. Oh yeah, since action points are also redeemed when the action is completed that means military treaties will have more meaning. If you were to attack a distant island then you would lose the use of your action point until your force returns. However if you station an expeditionary force closer to the target you will get your action points back faster and thus be able to make more sorties. __________________ My sanity is not in question... It was a confirmed casualty some time ago. \|TG\|Tarenth Battlefield 2142 Mirra World of Warcraft Light, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they ticked me off.

03-31-2008, 12:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
machowner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Tazewell, TN Posts: 2,773	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 I don't know, I'll have to figure out if this is a good change or not. __________________ \|New to TG? Start here\|*\|Become a Supporting Member\| "Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!"

03-31-2008, 12:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tarenth Join Date: May 2006 Location: California Posts: 2,087	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 Yeah, the jury is still out on that verdict at the moment. As it stands now it radically changes key game play elements, but it does so in a way that expands upon previously overlooked features in the game. I just wish they nuked the cost of the GR and just have the palace upgrade scale with cost and make up the difference. BTW, if you haven't built palaces/GRs yet in your colonies then you need to get started and fast. The current rate is actually the lowest rate of corruption we'll see and it will quickly scale up until it reaches the point the developers want. Consider it the 'grace period' right now for the change. If you don't counter corruption now you may see stagnation and difficulties later on. I feel especially bad for people who have sent colonies long distance because that means you'll tie up action points shuttling enough resources to build and upgrade your GR up to specs. __________________ My sanity is not in question... It was a confirmed casualty some time ago. \|TG\|Tarenth Battlefield 2142 Mirra World of Warcraft Light, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they ticked me off.

03-31-2008, 12:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
MDFubar Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Castle, DE Age: 40 Posts: 1,593	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 My GR is being built now in my colony....wasted no time with this one. __________________ "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - General George Patton Jr

03-31-2008, 01:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tarenth Join Date: May 2006 Location: California Posts: 2,087	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 Well the trading post idea got kicked in the head. As soon as I had enough APs to give it a shot I tried it out. 1 AP is expended by the buyer for every trade you accept. __________________ My sanity is not in question... It was a confirmed casualty some time ago. \|TG\|Tarenth Battlefield 2142 Mirra World of Warcraft Light, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they ticked me off.

03-31-2008, 01:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
draeh Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Austintown, Ohio Age: 35 Posts: 2,144	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 Time at the top of the game is now displayed in server time. At least we will be able to tell each other shipment times without the need for a time mathematics exercise. __________________ Ikariam (Alpha) Toruos[44:84]>Non Sequitur(c)-Sulfur :: Nyyos[44:85]>Obesa Cantavit-Wine Tiaayos[43:84]>Stercus Accidit-Marble :: Emytia[45:85]>Vacca Foeda-Crystal * Dirtboy's 2142 Evolution * Improving Situational Awareness! My Screenies - My Webpage - Xfire - Vimeo!

03-31-2008, 01:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
RedTalon Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 514	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 Just confirmed this, Buying at a trade post requires action points. So any action where you have to send a ship/troop requires an action point. Although some good news. You get actions points back when the trade/battle finishes not when your ships return home. So long live chain pillaging!

03-31-2008, 01:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tarenth Join Date: May 2006 Location: California Posts: 2,087	Re: Updated to 0.2.0 Meh...they just stopped the time readjustments after loading draeh. Pre-patch you could still see server time when you reloaded a page, but a few seconds later it'd readjust to quasi-local time for some reason. Its a nice change since I don't have a keep reloading to get accurate ETAs. __________________ My sanity is not in question... It was a confirmed casualty some time ago. \|TG\|Tarenth Battlefield 2142 Mirra World of Warcraft Light, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they ticked me off.

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