SPIES! An inquiry.

**Augustus Gloop** · 04-11-2008, 11:57 AM

First, a humorous conversation in the spirit of "Overheard in Game"

chris2, an inhabitant of the same island as my main colony Chocolat, and I had this conversation shortly in response to a polite mass mailing I sent around to everyone asking them to donate to our Quarry and Sawmill. It really was polite, not snarky in any way, and I used it to determine who was active and who not so I could launch same island attacks.

Remember to read this in reverse:

Quote:

chris2,
Clearly what we have here is a failure to communicate. What is it you'd like me to donate to?
On the 10.04.2008 22:58 chris2 wrote::
> r u getting smart with me.
> On the 10.04.2008 22:56 AugustusGloop wrote::
> > To our Wonder you mean? I've donated 4000, which is pretty hefty for my beginning town. I want that blessing as much as anyone.
> > On the 10.04.2008 22:45 chris2 wrote::
> > > donate some money.
> > > On the 10.04.2008 22:41 AugustusGloop wrote::
> > > > I have already donated over 1000 wood, and will continue to do so. Everyone benefits, but not everyone donates. Please help us all by donating what you can.
> > > > On the 10.04.2008 22:27 chris2 wrote::
> > > > >
> > > > > u send some too ok reply back.
> > > > > On the 07.04.2008 22:50 AugustusGloop wrote::
> > > > > > Greetings from Chocolot!
> > > > > > This is just a friendly hello to my neighbor, asking how your town is going, and wondering if you're active. Our sawmill is going quite well thanks to donations, but our Quarry is lagging behind. Given the importance of marble, I was hoping to encourage your donations.
> > > > > > Please reply if you get the message, even if you only say hello back.
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Augustus Gloop of Chocolat

It's been a while, and I haven't heard back.

I have a spy sitting in his level 10 town (with almost no military). I'd escalate matters with the transparent "rudeness" excuse, but he has almost no supplies either.

Code:

Mission:  	Spy out garrison
Target town: 	NEW DR
Date: 	11.04.2008 17:24:10
Status: 	Mission successfully accomplished!
Report: 	
	Troops in NEW DR
Unit 	Quantity
Phalanx 	1
	Fleets in NEW DR
Ship 	Quantity
Ram-Ship 	2

Now my question:
Is spy detection figured per hour, or per action? Can I keep my spy there with no chance of detection if he doesn't do anything but passively report building upgrades, or should I haul his ass out of there the moment his discovery chance is 5% again?

Turbo · 04-11-2008, 12:02 PM

I have had a spy in one place now for probably 7 days in one location checking on stuff from time to time. I always seem to get caught leaving.

RedTalon · 04-11-2008, 12:05 PM

You stand a greater chance of discovery trying to make them leave then stay there, but yes they can be discovered when just sitting there dunno how it is figured but oddly it has only happened to me with-in a few hours of a spy getting to a town. I have had spys sit in towns for weeks and nothing happens. So from my experience it is very unlikely a spy will get discovered just sitting in a town.

**MDFubar** · 04-11-2008, 12:45 PM

The detection rate drops the longer they stay without being productive. Theoretically, they blend into the society and go more unoticed. I ahve yet to have one detected by sitting around.

Ironfist1864 · 04-11-2008, 06:21 PM

my reply is to just straight out make an example about how not to be rude to other players and utterly destroy him!!!!!!!

**Augustus Gloop** · 04-11-2008, 10:32 PM

I'm not a fan of picking on same island folks who donate.

**Rali3gH** · 04-12-2008, 11:13 AM

I thought the blessings were still bugged. Is there any advantage to donating money?

aculle01 · 04-12-2008, 01:52 PM

are your own spies the only method to protect against other spies?

**Augustus Gloop** · 04-12-2008, 01:59 PM

Spies help, but I think having a small town hall helps a lot too.

**MDFubar** · 04-12-2008, 02:01 PM

Yes, the lower the town level(population) the easier to detect spies also. Always keep at least one in your own town. My bigger colonies(level 13) I try to keep at least 4 spies on defense.

**Rali3gH** · 04-12-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDFubar

Yes, the lower the town level(population) the easier to detect spies also. Always keep at least one in your own town. My bigger colonies(level 13) I try to keep at least 4 spies on defense.

Are they on defense as long as they are not out on missions? or is there something else you have to do?

**MDFubar** · 04-12-2008, 02:24 PM

Correct, just keeping them in your town will keep them on the defense. Basically, they just hang around and look for other spies. So, I have 3 out on missions and 4 on defense in my capital.

**Rali3gH** · 04-12-2008, 02:46 PM

/goes to upgrade hideout

ikonic · 04-12-2008, 07:55 PM

I have 9 spies defending and a classified number of spies on missions!

04-11-2008, 12:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Turbo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Age: 26 Posts: 3,925	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. I have had a spy in one place now for probably 7 days in one location checking on stuff from time to time. I always seem to get caught leaving. __________________ Ikariam.com: World Alpha: Capitol: Sacoma [76:80], Marble Ikariam.com: World Alpha: Colony: CodyTron [64:82], Wine

04-11-2008, 12:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
RedTalon Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 514	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. You stand a greater chance of discovery trying to make them leave then stay there, but yes they can be discovered when just sitting there dunno how it is figured but oddly it has only happened to me with-in a few hours of a spy getting to a town. I have had spys sit in towns for weeks and nothing happens. So from my experience it is very unlikely a spy will get discovered just sitting in a town.

04-11-2008, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
MDFubar Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Castle, DE Age: 40 Posts: 1,547	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. The detection rate drops the longer they stay without being productive. Theoretically, they blend into the society and go more unoticed. I ahve yet to have one detected by sitting around. __________________ "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - General George Patton Jr

04-11-2008, 06:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ironfist1864 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 38	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. my reply is to just straight out make an example about how not to be rude to other players and utterly destroy him!!!!!!! __________________ Thor of Wyverns Court Nyautia[72:86] When the enemy is relaxed, make them toil. When full, starve them. When settled, make them move." "In conflict, straightforward actions generally lead to engagement, surprising actions generally lead to victory." "Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy."

04-11-2008, 10:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Augustus Gloop Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gone for the weekend folks! Age: 31 Posts: 2,588	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. I'm not a fan of picking on same island folks who donate. __________________

04-12-2008, 11:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rali3gH Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Age: 26 Posts: 1,259	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. I thought the blessings were still bugged. Is there any advantage to donating money? __________________ \|TG-8th Mercs\|*New to TG? Start here*Become a Supporting Member Ikariam.com Alpha Colony Information TGA-Santeria (Wine) 30:77\|Send me Goods * TGA-GardenGrove (Marble) 33:79\|Send me Goods TGA-PawnShop (Crystal) 33:76\|Send me Goods * TGA-Voodoo (Marble) 26:76\|Send me Goods

04-12-2008, 01:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
aculle01 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Monterey, CA Age: 25 Posts: 1,388	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. are your own spies the only method to protect against other spies? __________________ "Not all who wander are aimless." PSN: aculle01

04-12-2008, 01:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Augustus Gloop Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gone for the weekend folks! Age: 31 Posts: 2,588	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. Spies help, but I think having a small town hall helps a lot too. __________________

04-12-2008, 02:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
MDFubar Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Castle, DE Age: 40 Posts: 1,547	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. Yes, the lower the town level(population) the easier to detect spies also. Always keep at least one in your own town. My bigger colonies(level 13) I try to keep at least 4 spies on defense. __________________ "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - General George Patton Jr

04-12-2008, 02:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
MDFubar Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Castle, DE Age: 40 Posts: 1,547	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. Correct, just keeping them in your town will keep them on the defense. Basically, they just hang around and look for other spies. So, I have 3 out on missions and 4 on defense in my capital. __________________ "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - General George Patton Jr

04-12-2008, 02:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rali3gH Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Age: 26 Posts: 1,259	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. /goes to upgrade hideout __________________ \|TG-8th Mercs\|*New to TG? Start here*Become a Supporting Member Ikariam.com Alpha Colony Information TGA-Santeria (Wine) 30:77\|Send me Goods * TGA-GardenGrove (Marble) 33:79\|Send me Goods TGA-PawnShop (Crystal) 33:76\|Send me Goods * TGA-Voodoo (Marble) 26:76\|Send me Goods

04-12-2008, 07:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
ikonic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 1,326	Re: SPIES! An inquiry. I have 9 spies defending and a classified number of spies on missions! __________________

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