Is the Insurgency dead? - Page 2

**MagnaCentipede** · 07-21-2008, 09:36 AM

OB engine adds a lot of optimisations and some new features.

Mostly 2.1 is bugfixes. However, I am disturbed to see that bullets seem to hurt less now. I always liked the Ghost Recon system, where you're either fine, hurt, or toast. It seems to me they became proud of their blur and bullet-whizzing-by sounds, and nerfed lead so we could 'enjoy' it more. I don't like being able to shake off six bullet wounds just because none of them hit the head or chest hitbox. Likewise, at long range the grunt rifles are plenty accurate to hit people but it rarely kills them, and worse, the sniper rifles seem to drop off similarly. Karkar caverns is a nightmare for the Marines, and yet five shots on an Insie with the USMC sniper rifle does nothing because despite catching the insie in the face, it was non-lethal, so he ducks behind cover for one second and regenerates using magic videogame power.

Pistols are a joke, too. For some reason I can panic and gutshot a teammate for an instant kill, but I can crawl up behind an enemy, fire three shots three times, and the guy I've killed a whole lot is waiting for his reload animation to complete so he can gib me. Pistols need to be strong for about 50 feet and then drop off to ineffectuality so they can do what they're supposed to do -- be useful when your primary weapon is inappropriate.

If they increase the penalty for failure in 3.0 I'll be happy, but if I want arcade damage, I have TF2.

**Sabre_Tooth_Tigger** · 07-21-2008, 09:50 AM

What server do you play on, I dont really have anything listed on my favourites so I dont tend to play this though I've not given this version a proper chance yet

Some of the games in PR are a bit like you say

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you're either fine, hurt, or toast.

any hit at all causes immediate bleeding and death if untreated but only the G3 7.62mm rifle does this, the M16 and others are weaker

**MagnaCentipede** · 07-21-2008, 10:47 AM

In GR? In the GR sequels? In Insurgency? I only played the first GR, the later stuff looked like Robocop. I haven't seen any bleeding mechanic in Insurgency at all.

**Sabre_Tooth_Tigger** · 07-21-2008, 10:53 AM

I've never played Ghost recon unfortunately, I meant PR as in the http://realitymod.com for bf2. They have bleeding in that, sometimes its just from 1 bullet like you mentioned.

Half life engine seems more flexible then bf2 so maybe this is something they could/should put in really, but then they dont have medics, etc

07-21-2008, 09:36 AM	#16 (permalink)
MagnaCentipede Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,899	Re: Is the Insurgency dead? OB engine adds a lot of optimisations and some new features. Mostly 2.1 is bugfixes. However, I am disturbed to see that bullets seem to hurt less now. I always liked the Ghost Recon system, where you're either fine, hurt, or toast. It seems to me they became proud of their blur and bullet-whizzing-by sounds, and nerfed lead so we could 'enjoy' it more. I don't like being able to shake off six bullet wounds just because none of them hit the head or chest hitbox. Likewise, at long range the grunt rifles are plenty accurate to hit people but it rarely kills them, and worse, the sniper rifles seem to drop off similarly. Karkar caverns is a nightmare for the Marines, and yet five shots on an Insie with the USMC sniper rifle does nothing because despite catching the insie in the face, it was non-lethal, so he ducks behind cover for one second and regenerates using magic videogame power. Pistols are a joke, too. For some reason I can panic and gutshot a teammate for an instant kill, but I can crawl up behind an enemy, fire three shots three times, and the guy I've killed a whole lot is waiting for his reload animation to complete so he can gib me. Pistols need to be strong for about 50 feet and then drop off to ineffectuality so they can do what they're supposed to do -- be useful when your primary weapon is inappropriate. If they increase the penalty for failure in 3.0 I'll be happy, but if I want arcade damage, I have TF2. __________________

07-21-2008, 10:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
MagnaCentipede Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,899	Re: Is the Insurgency dead? In GR? In the GR sequels? In Insurgency? I only played the first GR, the later stuff looked like Robocop. I haven't seen any bleeding mechanic in Insurgency at all. __________________

07-21-2008, 10:53 AM	#19 (permalink)
Sabre_Tooth_Tigger Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: eurasia Posts: 2,327	Re: Is the Insurgency dead? I've never played Ghost recon unfortunately, I meant PR as in the http://realitymod.com for bf2. They have bleeding in that, sometimes its just from 1 bullet like you mentioned. Half life engine seems more flexible then bf2 so maybe this is something they could/should put in really, but then they dont have medics, etc __________________ *WWII German infantry weapons in detail*

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