Machine Guns!

**Dirtboy** · 07-03-2007, 11:31 PM

Ok...I have noticed that alot of people dont use the Machine guns that often. I for one choose it everytime. It has many tactical advantages.

1. Suppressing fire: Unlike many other games(CS:S), suppressing fire is a needed asset in this mod. With bullet richocet, "fog of war", and penetration it is invaluable on the battlefield.

2. Automatic: Having alot more ammo is useful for the simple fact that there is less reload.

3. Nades: It has both a frag and a smoke. Greatly needed on the battlefield. Many other kits dont have these.

4. Defensive measure: In the event that you need to make a quick defense, you can deploy the bi-pod on almost everything. Boxes, windows, jersey barriers, cars, etc.

What are your opinions?

**† Disciple †** · 07-04-2007, 03:28 AM

Damn right smokes are essential beacuase Support Gunners can be deadly when set up right if you don't have a good use of smokes to keep your assault covered, then your gonna have a bad time.

However there seems to be a bug when you pull a smoke out as the SL lol hey dirtboy.

ednos · 07-04-2007, 10:16 AM

Not to mention that the M249 in this game is as accurate as the M16...

Has anyone else had trouble with these smokes? I've only experienced it spectating Dirtboy.

Snail88 · 07-04-2007, 10:37 AM

givnig the support smoke nades is awesome especially on assault, since you pop a smoke in front of somewhere where you want to set up your gun so when the smoke clears....bam! instant covering fire for your teammates.

ednos · 07-04-2007, 10:44 AM

Just be careful; smoke is a frag request beacon.

**Vulcan** · 07-04-2007, 12:05 PM

You don't wanna try to sprint while throwing any grenade or you get stuck. They are suppose to fix in the next patch though.

Paperchase · 07-04-2007, 02:28 PM

There's that bug with the SAW where you can't reload the thing. Another thing that's going to be fixed in the patch.

**MagnaCentipede** · 07-04-2007, 08:36 PM

Who needs to reload a Para? If you manage to empty it, grab another gun. Someone would've died by then.

Aside: Para behaves like a pistol for me. Now I can play Support instead of Snipx0r on CT. \^_^/

nulloperations · 07-04-2007, 11:09 PM

Support is very underestimated in this game. It's a powerful team member and can make or break an assault or defense. I've seen gunner take up positions and mow down squad after squad. Against an unplanned team attack, the para user is going to come up on top in most occasions.

Dead.MaN^ · 07-21-2007, 12:57 PM

yeh but u cant flank or push forward with it, its simply too heavy for my taste

Monkey101 · 07-24-2007, 07:10 AM

u can run around with it pretty well. u have about 2 accurate shots while standing and no iron sighting if u pull ur mouse down a bit after the first shot. so u just do short burst if u miss the first time. i find it extremely well for everything but long range and sometimes mid range shots. for long range u have to be prone with the bipod and for midrange at least the iron sight and some luck. The gun REALLY excells in close combat though bc of its power, ammo size, and the aim is controllable.

Is a machine gun rush a viable tactic. i do it all the time and it really works.
(RPK>para)

kungfoofengshui · 08-06-2007, 03:04 PM

you can push up with the MG, but you'll have to be fairly slow. I tend to deploy my bipod and push from that position.

07-03-2007, 11:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dirtboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas! Age: 24 Posts: 3,162	Machine Guns! Ok...I have noticed that alot of people dont use the Machine guns that often. I for one choose it everytime. It has many tactical advantages. 1. Suppressing fire: Unlike many other games(CS:S), suppressing fire is a needed asset in this mod. With bullet richocet, "fog of war", and penetration it is invaluable on the battlefield. 2. Automatic: Having alot more ammo is useful for the simple fact that there is less reload. 3. Nades: It has both a frag and a smoke. Greatly needed on the battlefield. Many other kits dont have these. 4. Defensive measure: In the event that you need to make a quick defense, you can deploy the bi-pod on almost everything. Boxes, windows, jersey barriers, cars, etc. What are your opinions? __________________ \|TG-6th\| Dirtboy Need an Admin? \| Want to help TG? \| The 6th Devil's Brigade Jump on it!

07-04-2007, 03:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
† Disciple † Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Garden Of England Age: 21 Posts: 1,833	Re: Machine Guns! Damn right smokes are essential beacuase Support Gunners can be deadly when set up right if you don't have a good use of smokes to keep your assault covered, then your gonna have a bad time. However there seems to be a bug when you pull a smoke out as the SL lol hey dirtboy. __________________ "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." Winston Churchill

07-04-2007, 10:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
ednos Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,757	Re: Machine Guns! Not to mention that the M249 in this game is as accurate as the M16... Has anyone else had trouble with these smokes? I've only experienced it spectating Dirtboy. __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~ Bertrand Russell I have a tendency to key out three or four things and then let them battle for supremacy while I key, so there's a lot of backspacing as potential statements are slaughtered and eaten by the victors. ~ Magna Centipede

07-04-2007, 10:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
ednos Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,757	Re: Machine Guns! Just be careful; smoke is a frag request beacon. __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~ Bertrand Russell I have a tendency to key out three or four things and then let them battle for supremacy while I key, so there's a lot of backspacing as potential statements are slaughtered and eaten by the victors. ~ Magna Centipede

07-04-2007, 12:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Vulcan Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Age: 29 Posts: 7,110	Re: Machine Guns! You don't wanna try to sprint while throwing any grenade or you get stuck. They are suppose to fix in the next patch though. __________________ TG Primer - CSS SOP's - INS SOP's

07-04-2007, 02:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
Paperchase Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Island of Tonal Age: 16 Posts: 287	Re: Machine Guns! There's that bug with the SAW where you can't reload the thing. Another thing that's going to be fixed in the patch. __________________ \|TG-Irr\|Paperchase

07-04-2007, 08:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
MagnaCentipede Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,859	Re: Machine Guns! Who needs to reload a Para? If you manage to empty it, grab another gun. Someone would've died by then. Aside: Para behaves like a pistol for me. Now I can play Support instead of Snipx0r on CT. \^_^/ __________________

07-04-2007, 11:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
nulloperations Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tampa, Fl (org. New Orleans, La pre-Katrina) Age: 24 Posts: 479	Re: Machine Guns! Support is very underestimated in this game. It's a powerful team member and can make or break an assault or defense. I've seen gunner take up positions and mow down squad after squad. Against an unplanned team attack, the para user is going to come up on top in most occasions. __________________ Not for the Glory. Not for the Honor. For the Team. Second Life Let your creativity flow in a fully functional MMO enviroment

07-21-2007, 12:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dead.MaN^ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 19 Posts: 3	Re: Machine Guns! yeh but u cant flank or push forward with it, its simply too heavy for my taste

07-24-2007, 07:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
Monkey101 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Azle,Texas Age: 18 Posts: 53	Re: Machine Guns! u can run around with it pretty well. u have about 2 accurate shots while standing and no iron sighting if u pull ur mouse down a bit after the first shot. so u just do short burst if u miss the first time. i find it extremely well for everything but long range and sometimes mid range shots. for long range u have to be prone with the bipod and for midrange at least the iron sight and some luck. The gun REALLY excells in close combat though bc of its power, ammo size, and the aim is controllable. Is a machine gun rush a viable tactic. i do it all the time and it really works. (RPK>para)

08-06-2007, 03:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
kungfoofengshui Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 20	Re: Machine Guns! you can push up with the MG, but you'll have to be fairly slow. I tend to deploy my bipod and push from that position.

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