Celestial1

Now yes, the beta is still around at this time; But there's a lot of confusion that seems to occur when something goes wrong; especially when boss zombies are around. So, let's get some helpful basics to survive what Left4Dead throws at you...

Boomer rush: When the Boomer vomits or explodes onto a teammate, they should remove themselves from the group; the less surroundable of a position, the better. While the rush occurs, they should melee as many times as they possibly can, and the remainder of the party should pick off the ones in the back, and work their way forward to the straggler. If more than 1 of the team has been covered in bile, the clean survivors should begin meleefire (Melee, shoot; melee, shoot; repeat) to take out as many as possible.

Tank: For the love of god, turn around and RUN when it's after you; don't walk backwards while shooting at him if he's extremely close, he'll outrun your backwards trotting or you'll walk into an obstacle. Instead, run full steam away from him so your teammates can hit him. To relieve the beating a teammate is having, you can melee the tank to aggravate him. Be aware, however, that he will very likely turn around and put you to the ground if you are not quick enough to run away afterwards.

Witch: Surround her in a firing-line-esque style. Aim for the head and take her out before she can do anything about it, if possible. Most annoying boss to take on if you get caught alone with her, not including the tank.


Anything else? Feel free to include tips that do not include boss fighting.

peardog

Good Tip Re: the Boomer Rush... makes perfect sense...

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Transcendant

I've found it useful to just type the first letter of a boss' name as warning whenever you hear/see one. ie: "w" for witch, "b" for boomer, "h" for hunter, "omg this ai director was abused as a child" for tank

sparhawkxx

There is so many tactics to use that this should become a large thread. This one I have to break the habit of doing. When the smoker grabs your teamate don't just try to find the smoker and shoot at him but goto your strangling teamate and malee him to get that nasty tongue off his living corpse.

The bad news is the smoker might slip away to come back and fight but the good news is your teamate will survive either with no or little harm.

Remember with the boomer its kinda a sacrifice. If the boomer comes around a corner at close range and you shoot him he will explode vomit on the whole team. But if that boomer comes around the corner and you malee him at first site then the worst that can happen is he vomits just on you right before you kill him. Otherwise you shoot him with no malee and he explodes his nasty bile all over your team blinding and endangering your survival.

This is why they are still effective on a roof. They just fall off onto the team and your all doomed unless you can kill him mid fall then everyone is happy True story nice shot by one of our pros

Ok got another one for ya'll. Please when in tight dark places turn your flashlights off unless covered in vomit. The reason you want those flashlights off is so you can get closer to the zombies. Why do you want to be closer to a zombie invested area? Because if you just pick from a far position with too many differant ways the zombie horde can rush you, the team will take on alot of damage. Where as if you can sneak up on the zombies you can get into a corner where you can defend yourselves. This might be one of the most important tactics of the game. Yes the flashlights alert the zombies at long distances.

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Grimmfist

Buddy system works well in subway tunnels. Never be alone in one of the tunnels or you'll likely get the hunter or smoker pouncing you. And for the love of all survivors, if your buddy is surrounded by the infected do not shoot into it risking the death or incapacitation of your fellow survivor. Get in there and melee away. Knock back the infected and then blast them. Or throw a pipe bomb nearby and watch the majority turn and BOOM!

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DeltaFart

Have one person grab a hunting rifle to pick off infected from a distance. I find it also helps with Smokers and Witches also. Not so much with tank becuase of low rate of fire but if you can get a couple of magazines into him with it it helps also.
First Weapons Pickup
Uzi-High Rate of Fire moderate damage, moderate reload moderate accuracy In general a good beginners gun if you wnat to keep the guys at range
Pump Shotgun-High Damage Moderate Accuracy low range. Good at opening doors up and beating off your first zombie horde, but a little tricky at longer than across the room of the first building's distance. At taht point draw your pistol. Great for people who've run through a couple of times and don't mind giving up a little range and accuracy for power.

2nd Pickup you can get
M16 Style Rifle- If you like a mix of range accuracy and damage with high rate of fire, this is for you. I find that before I can get a smoker across the finale room a guy with one of these have shot the man already.
M4 Benelli Auto Shotgun- If you want a fast-ish very high powered short range weapon. Amazing for hordes, and the tank. Basically the Tank Buster in this game, it'll make swiss cheese of any room of infected
Ruger Mini-14 Hunting Rifle- Great for picking off at a distance. I like it with the witches. I've 1 shotted the witches a couple of times when done correctly with this. It'll punch through a whole line of infected no problem. Hell it'll go through about any obstacle between you and an infected. Not the best for hordes due to low rate of fire so hope you have some distance btween you and the horde. Usually a 1 shot kill weapon though I'll shoot an infected 3 times before he drops(usually because the round goes right through and the body doesn't fall fast enough)

M1911 Pistol- Great for when you have run out of ammo and the zombie is just about on you.
Double Pistols- Even better, I find I love the pistols more than shotgun because of amount of power and lead with teh distance

Hope this is your opinons, this is just from my experiences

I find that the best group is
2 Uzis 2 Pumps
then
2 M16s 1 Mini-14, and 1 M4.


By the way whats your steam IDs? I want to play with you guys

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Pistolfied

Personally I think the best weapon would be the hunting rifle, if you know how to use it it will rip apart anything.

Also a good tip a lot of people ignore is CROUCH. Crouching can be your best friend, it provides an insane accuracy increase and allows your teammates to shoot over you in a choke point.

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Kulmar

I'll edit this post tommorrow... unless sloppy posts his 4 man point system.

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Wait, why cant we post tips about boss fighting?

Spyder

If you don't have the angle you can also pop a couple rounds into the tongue directly, which will break it. If you're using the shotty blast your teammate in the face. You can't hit your teammate but you can hit the tongue-wrap. Just, you know, Don't get over zealous.

For me personally I prefer 2 shotguns, 1 hunting rifle and 1 m16 in late games. You're far, far more likely to be up close and personal than you are distance fighting, and the Shotty is accurate enough at range to be able to disrupt a smoker with a couple shells, which usually allows your now freed teammate to blast him in the face. Plus 2 shottys are much more able to deal with a tank because they have a high damage output over a short period of time.

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Potshot

In the case of being hit by a boomer, try to find a corner to sit in. Then spam melee. You can survive the the whole horde without getting hit once like that. Your teammates should align themselves in such a fashion that shotgun should try to shoot straight into the oncoming horde, since the spread allows you to take out up to 3 infected with a single shot. Automatics should try to position themselves in such a way that the horde pass across their screen, and they can thus aim at the heads and just let loose. Alternatively, toss a pipe bomb. That'll clear the horde right away.

Always have a molotov ready. If you can't set the tank on fire, you're done. It's just much too hard to take out the tank with bullets to count on it regularly. You can also lure the tank into the fire in the tunnels, that works as well.

As for the smoker and hunter, refrain from using a molotov near them. I've been dragged through and tackled into fire by both, and it didn't end well. Pipe bombs work for drawing out Infected, molotovs should be used for area denial and taking out the tougher bosses.

Never let a boss escape. They can be gone for a long time - only to hit you in the back when you least expect it. Also, as a general rule of thumb, they can and will come from everywhere. I've been vomited upon from the roof(Though I doubt that was intentional) and hunters/ smokers can lurk atop signs and other things you don't usually check.

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Celestial1

As in, don't think that this thread is ONLY for boss tips.

Boss tips, Positioning tips, overall tactics, anything goes here. Don't feel limited to boss fighting because of my post containing 3 of them.


Conservation tips:
Don't waste pipebombs just because there are a lot of zombies, especially if you are playing on expert! If the situation is controllable, save the pipebomb for distraction or panic situations. For example, pipebombs can make the car alarm of the first level very easy to remedy if you happen to have one, and have your team rush to the basement door.

Don't waste molotovs, either, if you can help it. Again, if the situation is controllable, don't toss one just because! Make sure you always have one in your team, because a tank could be in store for your team, and they are indeed the easiest way to relieve the stress of that hulking death.

Watch your ammo, as it is very annoying to run out of ammo in the middle of a horde attack. While you may have a ton of ammo in most cases, that one time when you run out of ammo when fighting a tank is NOT cool. For smaller engagements, I encourage the use of the pistol. As soon as the heat turns up, however, be sure to flip to your primary weapon as soon as possible.



Last-Chance: When you've been incapacitated by the horde, blast away! Aim towards the head-chest area and let 'er rip. Be extremely wary of teammates coming for you, however, as it isn't very good to incapacitate the only teammate left when you're near the end of a level.

Spyder

Alternatively, if you are in a situation that could call for either and you're team is loaded with grenades, don't be afraid to toss one. I've had several teammates die when ever player had a grenade because they were holding them too long, waiting for the "Right" Moment.

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Kulmar

Well since I couldn't edit my post.. heres the 4 man point system.

Point one (Point) : This person is in the front of the group, often having a shotgun. Whenever the group has contact, he crouches so Point two can shoot over him. Controls the movement pace. Best way to hold off zombie swarms is to melee, not shoot.

Point two : This person is right behind Point one, and moves along with him. He shoots over One, and helps hold off swarms.

Point three : The most versatile member of them all. Recommended weapon of choice is the hunting rifle. Can help both directions, usually holds off the back with point four... but can get those areas where its not front, or behind (Sides, roofs, windows... etc)

Point four (Rear, 6): Covers the rear, crouches so point three can shoot over.





Often Points one/two stick together, while three/four hold the back. Internal buddy system implemented. This tactic is very effective for clearing buildings, and alleyways, but not so much a big open area. A good way for a big open area is to get along a wall, or a corner is best, and have two guys melee in front (each with a 45 degree arc) so they can hold em off, while the two guys in back shoot em down.



Usually the melee'ers can have a large enough arc that the two people in back do not have to hold a spot for them. They simply overlook them.

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sparhawkxx

Very nice Kulmar. And this is how its done. Make sure point that you move fast until engaging then you can crouch for backup fire. Also you are point call where the whole team is moving. Again should have one leader on this.

Using the point system you can clear the map of all the pipebombs and meds you need while staying safer. This is in the demo. I hope it works also for the full game

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