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    Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    There has got to be a way to deal with the many friendly fire incidents that continue to happen in this game everytime I play. You either find yourself getting hit or due to the rambo-like players in the game or I find myself shooting other survivors purely by accident. I realize that due to the chaotic nature of hordes coming after you, FF will happen no doubt, but there are many situations where this can be avoided.

    1) when I am crouched down shooting down an alley, out a window, or through a doorway, take the top position to shoot with me! No need to run past me just so you can "get your kills"... most likely, you will run right through my gunfire!

    2) If I get vomited on by a Boomer, the hordes are attracted to that and come looking for you.. Although I am struggling to fight off the gang of infected, no need to blast away each and every infected to rack up your kills! I appreciate the help, but guess what? I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT HORDE! YOU ARE SHOOTING ME AS WELL! Get a good angle on the horde and take out their legs or something, just make sure I am not in your line of fire!

    3) If I happen to be "roughing up" a zombie against a wall or have it pinned in a corner, no need to shoot him until he's dead... trust me, I'm not in trouble, my rifle stock will take care of this ONE ZOMBIE so no need to kill the thing! you do realize that your shotgun or M16 blast is hitting me in the back, right?

    4) Here is a doozy... same situation as #2, but this time, someone will throw a molotov into the horde with me standing right in the middle! Hellooooo! do I look like a steak to you? Burning decreases your health faster than friendly fire does!

    Just a few off of the top of my head... post your own!

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    Re: Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    Quote Originally Posted by grep View Post
    1) when I am crouched down shooting down an alley, out a window, or through a doorway, take the top position to shoot with me! No need to run past me just so you can "get your kills"... most likely, you will run right through my gunfire!
    Agreed. This happens to me a lot. Not as much on a TG team, but on public teams they run in front of my full auto shotty or whatever ALL THE DANG TIME.

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    2) If I get vomited on by a Boomer, the hordes are attracted to that and come looking for you.. Although I am struggling to fight off the gang of infected, no need to blast away each and every infected to rack up your kills! I appreciate the help, but guess what? I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT HORDE! YOU ARE SHOOTING ME AS WELL! Get a good angle on the horde and take out their legs or something, just make sure I am not in your line of fire!
    As an added note, if you are the only one who is puked, back up BEHIND everyone. They will only be running for you. That allows the others to fire and not have to risk (at least as much) attacks. It's easier to protect the target that way then trying to fire around him/her.

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    3) If I happen to be "roughing up" a zombie against a wall or have it pinned in a corner, no need to shoot him until he's dead... trust me, I'm not in trouble, my rifle stock will take care of this ONE ZOMBIE so no need to kill the thing! you do realize that your shotgun or M16 blast is hitting me in the back, right?
    Why yes... YES I DO...

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    4) Here is a doozy... same situation as #2, but this time, someone will throw a molotov into the horde with me standing right in the middle! Hellooooo! do I look like a steak to you? Burning decreases your health faster than friendly fire does!
    Eh.. never liked you anyway. And uh.. I was trying to toss it to you to use... I didn't MEAN to spill/smash it everywhere.

    Others:
    Try to have a different selection of weapons. We don't need 4 sniper rifles or 4 shotguns. We don't need 4 pipebombs.

    If I'm on the mini-gun, WATCH MY BACK. Let me know if the tank is behind me, etc...

    Don't you leave me <insert colorful adjective of your choice here>! In other words, if you're hiding in the safe room, leaving me to die out there, alone and scared... I hope a smoker tongues you off a bridge.
    And don't talk to me about POINTS. I'm a human being! Don't leave me behind for some 'fictional' points! I SAID DO NOT LEAVE ME YOU PUNK!

    Please do not run off alone. If you do, I'll still try to save you, but you deserve to be huntered/tongued/puked/tanked/whatevered.

    If 3 of us have just jumped down a man hole cover that doesn't have a way back up, you better be 0.128 seconds behind us. Because if you get incapacitated, you can yell "don't you leave me" all you want, because we can't come back. Maybe you shouldn't have stayed up there trying to rack up kills.
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    Re: Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    In a game designed to ALLOW you to Shoot at a friendly to get him released from a ZOMBIE.. It's best just to go with it.. Don't over think this game or it will ruin it..
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    Overthink? THE WORLD IS ENDING AND THE ZOMBIES WANT MY FLESH! If you don't think enough, you hand victory to the living-impaired! And you better think enough to not shoot me! I'd hate to be laying on the floor and start shooting you screaming "you going down with me punk!"

    LOL JK
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    Re: Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    everyone knows you shoot other survivors so you can run faster than them

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    Re: Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    Quote Originally Posted by grep View Post
    There has got to be a way to deal with the many friendly fire incidents that continue to happen in this game everytime I play. You either find yourself getting hit or due to the rambo-like players in the game or I find myself shooting other survivors purely by accident. I realize that due to the chaotic nature of hordes coming after you, FF will happen no doubt, but there are many situations where this can be avoided.

    1) when I am crouched down shooting down an alley, out a window, or through a doorway, take the top position to shoot with me! No need to run past me just so you can "get your kills"... most likely, you will run right through my gunfire!
    So true. Also, don't move around when you don't need to. I hate people shifting around in a doorway trying to get an angle on a zombie who he could shoot as soon as we move through the door, or when the zombie notices us. Otherwise you're going to get led in the back of your head, and some of it may not be accidental

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    2) If I get vomited on by a Boomer, the hordes are attracted to that and come looking for you.. Although I am struggling to fight off the gang of infected, no need to blast away each and every infected to rack up your kills! I appreciate the help, but guess what? I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT HORDE! YOU ARE SHOOTING ME AS WELL! Get a good angle on the horde and take out their legs or something, just make sure I am not in your line of fire!
    But if you crouch while fighting them off, they can aim on head level and take out the entire horde in seconds.

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    3) If I happen to be "roughing up" a zombie against a wall or have it pinned in a corner, no need to shoot him until he's dead... trust me, I'm not in trouble, my rifle stock will take care of this ONE ZOMBIE so no need to kill the thing! you do realize that your shotgun or M16 blast is hitting me in the back, right?

    4) Here is a doozy... same situation as #2, but this time, someone will throw a molotov into the horde with me standing right in the middle! Hellooooo! do I look like a steak to you? Burning decreases your health faster than friendly fire does!

    Just a few off of the top of my head... post your own!
    Completely agree. Seeing who can hit those single zombies at range is a healthy kind of competetion, but if you risk hitting someone, don't do it. As for molotovs, don't use them except in situations you can't do anything else, when you have some to spare or when you have a tank against you. Pipe bombs are fine, but through them towards where the zombies are coming from. It's usually firther from teammates, it's going to pull zombies away from you and the surviving ones will be convieniently grouped up.
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    Re: Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    Quote Originally Posted by Skylark View Post
    Overthink? THE WORLD IS ENDING AND THE ZOMBIES WANT MY FLESH! If you don't think enough, you hand victory to the living-impaired! And you better think enough to not shoot me! I'd hate to be laying on the floor and start shooting you screaming "you going down with me punk!"

    LOL JK
    It's always good to have someone want your flesh eh? I look at it like alot of blind dates or something..

    I also want a mod where it takes place in like a plastic surgery clinic or a super huge Victoria Secret.. I'm sick of seeing man arse crack... eh?
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    Re: Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    Quote Originally Posted by AdeptAbyss View Post
    everyone knows you shoot other survivors so you can run faster than them
    That my Freinds..is strategy!!
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    Re: Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    Quote Originally Posted by Skylark View Post
    Overthink? THE WORLD IS ENDING AND THE ZOMBIES WANT MY FLESH! If you don't think enough, you hand victory to the living-impaired! And you better think enough to not shoot me! I'd hate to be laying on the floor and start shooting you screaming "you going down with me punk!"

    LOL JK
    LOL

    I am going to tell that to everyone I CO-OP with

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    everyone knows you shoot other survivors so you can run faster than them
    Useful strategy I must remember

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    Useful strategy I must remember
    I don't have to run faster then the tank, I just have to run faster then you.

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    Re: Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    Quote Originally Posted by grep View Post
    2) If I get vomited on by a Boomer, the hordes are attracted to that and come looking for you.. Although I am struggling to fight off the gang of infected, no need to blast away each and every infected to rack up your kills! I appreciate the help, but guess what? I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT HORDE! YOU ARE SHOOTING ME AS WELL! Get a good angle on the horde and take out their legs or something, just make sure I am not in your line of fire!
    That's when you have to crouch. Your buddies want to aim for the head, not for the feet. (Like Pot said)
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    Re: Friendly fire, not so friendly...

    If I am vomited on and am alone, probably not a good idea to run up beside me. Especially if, as you run toward me, I am already firing as fast as I can toward their legs. Running up into my line of fire while I'm blind and shooting down toward legs is not a good idea.
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