View Poll Results: What would you like changed on the VS server?

Voters
36. You may not vote on this poll
  • No medpacks (all pain pills)

    2 5.56%
  • Fewer medpacks (mostly pain pills)

    18 50.00%
  • Voluntary release on smoker tongue

    17 47.22%
  • Increase range on smoker tongue

    20 55.56%
  • Impact damage for falling SI (boomers go boom when falling off a building)

    11 30.56%
  • A server dedicated to Dead Air in VS mode

    17 47.22%
  • A server dedicated to Death Toll in VS mode

    18 50.00%
  • No delay between click and Boomer puking

    26 72.22%
  • Longer range Boomer puke

    12 33.33%
  • Other (detail below)

    5 13.89%
Multiple Choice Poll.
+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2
1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 22
  1. #1


    WhiskeySix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    11,063

    Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    We can do any of this stuff if so desired. Choose all that apply.

    Note: if we go no-medpacks, we do have the option of reverting to normal difficulty.

    "...a lot of "cover" is only "concealment" when the right ordinance is applied." - Draeh


  2. #2
    Avs
    Avs is offline

    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    1,084

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    Other:

    Reduce Shotgun efficiency against tanks to 50% from 75%.

    Double witch health and increase sight range.

    Reduce molotov/pipebomb density in general (33% reduction)

    Increase map difficulty for certain map stages (from 1.5 to 1, which reduces Director relax time and increases director stress and common infected density[?]) on Hospital or the first rounds, etc.


  3. #3
    Iamthefallen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Columbia, SC
    Age
    30
    Posts
    1,121

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avs View Post
    Reduce molotov/pipebomb density in general
    Yes please.

    Insta puke would be awesome.

    Can impact damage be turned on for Boomers but off for hunters?



  4.  
  5. #4

    Kebab-Kastike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Finland
    Age
    20
    Posts
    2,751

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    I voted:
    Fewer medpacks (mostly pain pills)
    Sometimes the amount of health packs is rediculous. You almost kill off the whole survivor team but with a lucky strike they manage to get to office block that has health packs for all of them - they should've died! The chances of getting healthpack should be atleast 1/4 less than it is now if not halved. (EDIT: I don't remember if this has been an issue with the advanced Versus, I'll be back on this subject)

    No delay between click and Boomer puking
    Playing from over seas gives us Europeans many disadvantages. One of them is ambushing. Many times I've ambushed as boomer just to stand there like an idiot for half a second before I puke. By that time they have introduced me to the back of their shotgun and the hot lead it shoots at me.

    Increase range on smoker tongue
    It could be just two meters longer (one yard). In the forest maps it's hard enough to find safe spot to spawn. Smokers are endangered species anyway, make them live a bit longer because they could pull from safe spot. Save the smokers.
    |TG-E1st| Kebab-Kastike reporting for duty. | Why? Tubes! The internet is tubes!
    My TacticalGamer VOIP&Teamplay videos


    TG-E1st TacticalGamer European Division | Team up with us today!
    Minä kaskean, vihan liekillä kylvän veristä ohraa.
    "See the world, while it's still there" - Madventures



  6. #5
    Avs
    Avs is offline

    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    1,084

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iamthefallen View Post
    Yes please.

    Insta puke would be awesome.

    Can impact damage be turned on for Boomers but off for hunters?
    Yes, this would affect Boomers.

    Heres another thing:

    Boomer explosion also deals (minimum) damage, example: 5 damage if you explode on people. I'm pretty sure this is possible.


  7. #6
    Transcendant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    75

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    Change the required damage estimate before grabbing a ledge. I'll give an exact number if you want, this should fix grabbing onto stupid ledges.

    An updated server cvar dump.

    Global decrease of all item density from 6 to 3.

    z_common_limit increase from 30 to 60. MOAR ZUMBEES!

    director_tank_lottery_selection_time from 4 to 0. No more spawning on fire or while throwing; less warning for survivors too.

    director_tank_min_interval from 350 to 200. I've always found TG teams can kill tanks easy.

    z_allow_ai_to_use_abilities from 1 to 0. Makes AI tank not throw, plus less effective AI infected when you get 5-6 during the tank. Maybe it's just me, but parking tanks is annoying for both teams, and needs to be discouraged. I personally think versus is a contest of player skill, not a contest of parking-the-tank-in-the-best-spot-and-getting-better-AI.

    An updated server cvar dump.

    z_witch_allow_change_victim 0. I'm tired of being mowed down without shooting or looking at her because a teammate thinks it's funny to hide behind me and provoke her pathing to attack me.

    z_witch_flashlight_range from 400 to 650
    z_witch_health from 1000 to 1750
    z_witch_personal_space from 100 to 250
    z_witch_berserk_range from 200 to 350
    z_witch_speed_inured from 200 to 400
    With these, she'll aggro sooner, be uncr0wnable by an individual in one hit, and be faster when injured than not injured.

    An updated server cvar dump. Please.


    My list goes on. I'll provide more if anyone is interested.



  8.  
  9. #7

    Kebab-Kastike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Finland
    Age
    20
    Posts
    2,751

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    When the option is wether to run to certain death at survivors ready with auto shotties staring at you or parking the tank and let the AI have a go I choose the latter.
    I don't think skill comes to play on how-close-the-tank-can-get-when-you-unload-four-autoshotties-at-him-under-the-staircase-where-the-tank-will-be-stuck-while-the-players-shoot-at-him cases. I rather park the tank and let the players fight with him on even ground.
    |TG-E1st| Kebab-Kastike reporting for duty. | Why? Tubes! The internet is tubes!
    My TacticalGamer VOIP&Teamplay videos


    TG-E1st TacticalGamer European Division | Team up with us today!
    Minä kaskean, vihan liekillä kylvän veristä ohraa.
    "See the world, while it's still there" - Madventures



  10. #8
    Boot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    1,855

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    No rage timer. Parking tanks sucks when everyone knows how to neutralize them. Let them stay human-controlled... and ANGRY!


  11. #9
    ikonic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Michigan
    Age
    23
    Posts
    1,387

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    Other: Leave it alone.

    The moment this game is molested, it gets broken very quick balance wise. Working with what is provided to you ensures consistent and quality gameplay for both sides. (unless your team sucks, then that's not the director's fault). The enjoyablity factor fades when you "know" what has been changed mechanically.

    Now if all the zombies were replaced with Hillary Clinton (or Wall Street / Treasury Department Execs), that would INCREASE the enjoyablity.
    -F-



  12.  
  13. #10

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Age
    39
    Posts
    1,089

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    I STRONGLY am against any changes the the witch other then adjusting her spawn locations. It's YOUR job as infected to not only make sure the survivors aggro her, but to ensure she at least incaps someone EVERYSINGLETIME she is spawned.

    Now sometimes because she spawns in a stupid spot and you cant do much of anything. An example being when she spawns on the stairs on nm-4 or in the room by the security door on bh-2. I'm all for addressing the crappy spawn locations, she should always spawn in a location where the infected players can dictate whether or not she is effective. She doesnt have to be on the survivors "direct path" to make her a factor, but she simply has to spawn somewhere the infected players can work around her.

    The witch is no different then the tank in that both are ineffective without support, but with the proper support both can be almost overpowered. Know why a witch gets cr0wned in a vs. game? Because the player infected were all dead and couldn't stop it from happening. She is just like every other special infected in this game, worthless in a 1v4 situation, why should any changes be made to make her different from the rest?

    The only smoker change I would like to see would be to have the tongue travel at a higher velocity so alert players can't strafe out of being hit with it. (tip, whenever you hear the sound of a smoker, immeadiately start some strafing back and forth until the smoker is dead or you no longer hear the "cough", the tongue will only hit on a lucky shot.) You can easily with a little practice play the role of "Neo" and "dodge bullets" (or in this case tongue's) with a sub 150 ping and a little practice. I've said in other posts why the tongue detaching is a bad idea, no need to re-hash my opinions here.

    As much as the delay in vomiting annoyed me previously, once I figured out the situations that caused the delay, it wasn't ever a problem anymore. The boomer has roughly a 1 second delay between moving and being able to vomit. As far as boomer damage on explosion goes, that's not such a hot idea for the obvious reasons.

    The shotgun damage reduction to tanks is interesting. The main issue with the auto-shotty is it is either far and away the best weapon, or far and away the worst weapon to use against a tank. This is mostly because of level design moreso then any other cause. Areas where the tank can stay at range and throw rocks to let his fellow infected do the lions share of the work, the auto-shotty is useless. Tight enclosed areas where the tank has the choice of either running into heavy fire or giving up control to someone else who will then have the same issue, the auto-shotty is borderline overpowered. Level design is the main factor there, hopefully as more custom maps come out this will become less and less of an issue. Unfortunately I don't expect the SDK to come out for another 3 months at a minimum so custom maps will be fairly sparse until then.


  14. #11
    Avs
    Avs is offline

    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    1,084

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    Haha Boot, interesting.

    Trancendant, yes please, more ideas = better, even if they are crazy.

    Good points Morganan.

    And thanks for the down to earth Ikonic.
    Last edited by Avs; 01-30-2009 at 05:58 PM.


  15. #12
    Eternaly_Lost's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Milford MA
    Age
    22
    Posts
    399

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    I voted:
    Fewer medpack. Nothing quite like finding 3 medpack before you have even enter burger tank on NM3, more so when only one team gets it. There should only be at most about 2 medpack found, let the rest be pain pills.

    A server dedicated to death toll/ dead air versus. We need more to play.

    Boomer delay removed. Why did they even have this?

    Other:
    We don't want to touch many settings on the server. Reducing medpacks found and making them equal should bring versus closer to what they intended it to be.

    I also want to have the tank be a bit more random, so not at the exact same place but near it, and more tanks, have the tank not lose control. Maybe make them a bit stronger vs 4 autoshotguns, but maybe not.

    And make the witch more of a threat. Right now, just about one Autoshotgun can take her, missing almost half the time. Make it so that a very good shot will one kill her, but if you need more then 2 from one person, then she is taking someone down.





    Current game name : |TG| Lost the Phantom Thief



  16.  
  17. #13
    ikonic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Michigan
    Age
    23
    Posts
    1,387

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    Play on Expert, there solves your medpack problem.
    -F-


  18. #14
    DeimosManifest's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Maryland
    Age
    22
    Posts
    311

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ikonic View Post
    Play on Expert, there solves your medpack problem.
    Playing versus on expert is pointless. A group of infected who were so stupid they wore their pants on their heads could take out a group of decent survivors right outside the safe room.

    Unless you're trying to see how low you can get both teams' score to be.

    I meant to vote for less medpacks, but I forgot to click it Nothing like taking a group of survivors down to 5 health each only for them to roll up on a red box with 4 medkits in it. The second time.

    Tearing structurally-superfluous new behinds with high caliber weapons since 2006.


  19. #15
    Boot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    1,855

    Re: Poll: What tweaks would you like to see on the VS servers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avs View Post
    Haha Boot, interesting.
    Further to this... When the tank ends up AI controlled the survivors generally pick how they they will engage: set on fire and kite or some such. Imagine that the Tank picks the engagement spot, and the survivors have no choice but to push through it. I really think this would be fun to try a couple times. If we don't like it, <shrug> and change it back.



  20.  
  

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts