Thread: Thoughts on DA/DT for vs. mode?

I've found/submitted a few more locations for valve to hopefully address.

DA has 3 smoker pull locations where if the smoker waits for just the right spot, he can pull a survivor off the ledge and said survivor will never grab ahold of the ledge, it's an insta-kill. There is also a spot where a smoker can get an insta-incap just due to the fall distance. (that spot forces a tough choice on the survivors, retreat to almost the beginning of the level from near the end to save him/her, or leave the survivor) The DA finale also has some buggy spots/spawns. I've seen the normal tank spawn for DA spawn the tank in the middle of the crater, right in the fire, so of course basically the tank spawns on fire.

DT has 2 "insta-incap" pull spots as well but only one should be addressed by Valve imo. (if you have 2 paths, one where you cant be insta-incapped by a smoker, and one you can, it's not valves fault you chose the path you could get insta-incapped on) I still think the street on DT3 needs a little more work, a few more obstructions to allow the infected to spawn closer to the road, in it's current state the boomer is almost useless against a smart team. I'd also like to see the ranch house have a breakable exterior wall or two, but I cant consider that a bug as much as just wishfull thinking. There are some buggy climb locations as a tank as well, The event on DA3, the tank can spawn on the far side of the block. A smart survivor team will of course instantly trigger the event, and for some reason you cant climb over the block when it's on fire as the tank. If you dont climb over it however you will be forced to pass control over to the next player. You cant climb any building and bypass the fire either, it kind of sucks to be honest. If the tank spawns on DA4 on the far side of the fence before the survivors trigger the van, climbing over that fence can be a bug-ridden nightmare as well. (If you dont time your crouch just right, you simply wont fit through and fall back down to the ground)


Both DA and DT need to have more cars as static props and not as physics props, overall I think both DA and DT have a few to many "punchable" props period. There are more "punchables" for the tank in DT1 then the entire NM/BH campaigns combined. That leads to the question, are there to many punchables in DT/DA, or to few in NM/BH? I think they have a great start for DA and DT for vs. mode and they are far from unplayable, but they are also far from perfect imo.