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    Re: Left for Dead

    It feels like its easier with 2-3 people on expert than 4 for some strange reason for the demo.

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    Re: Left for Dead

    Its because the human bots are too good. You can sit back and they will headshot everything. I think they need to dumb them down alot
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    Re: Left for Dead

    Well I'm not that bad at the game. I mean, I play css alot and it's not all that different, except for the fact that you are shooting zombies instead of terrorists.

    I liked when I played with spar, assault, and toasty how we took our time and cleared all the rooms and such. Rushing on a game with tons of smart zombies makes no sense to me.
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    Re: Left for Dead

    Clef don't forget to mention how scared you was that you had to leave the group
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    Re: Left for Dead

    I'll be MIA from the demo until either Valve issues a fourth patch or fixes the crashing/lockup problem in the full version. Whatever was in that third patch is the culprit behind all the complete system lockups for me and a number of other people according to the L4D Steam forums. I've tried all the user suggested workarounds but nothing has solved the problem yet. Everything was working fine except for some minor bugs and then the third patch was released which pretty much killed it for me



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    Re: Left for Dead

    Hey Assault, can you describe more issues in depth (unless you already did so earlier in the thread that you can point out).

    Ive seen problems such as:

    Repeated de-sync of the server (lockups of 10+ seconds, then several seconds of no lag before seeing the "Reconnecting" popup).

    Display issues (partly having to do with some sort of memory error or leak? that occurs in steam with the overlay that pretty much requires a restart because the error resides in the video card memory).

    Loading with a slanted/angled screen: Where once you load in your screen is angled and you have to rejoin to fix usually.

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    Re: Left for Dead

    Assault I have been locking up but nothing like you. Since new patch I think I might of locked up like 4 times.
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    Re: Left for Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by sparhawkxx View Post
    Clef don't forget to mention how scared you was that you had to leave the group
    What are you talking about? I left because I didn't want to get sucked into the game. This game isn't scary at all. My heart gets pumping more on css than left for dead.
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    Re: Left for Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Assault9 View Post
    I'll be MIA from the demo until either Valve issues a fourth patch or fixes the crashing/lockup problem in the full version. Whatever was in that third patch is the culprit behind all the complete system lockups for me and a number of other people according to the L4D Steam forums. I've tried all the user suggested workarounds but nothing has solved the problem yet. Everything was working fine except for some minor bugs and then the third patch was released which pretty much killed it for me
    Same here, I'm lucky if I get a whole round in before it crashes.

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    Re: Left for Dead

    Sorry Clef I was joking. You was very brave.
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    Re: Left for Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Avs View Post
    Hey Assault, can you describe more issues in depth (unless you already did so earlier in the thread that you can point out).

    Ive seen problems such as:

    Repeated de-sync of the server (lockups of 10+ seconds, then several seconds of no lag before seeing the "Reconnecting" popup).

    Display issues (partly having to do with some sort of memory error or leak? that occurs in steam with the overlay that pretty much requires a restart because the error resides in the video card memory).

    Loading with a slanted/angled screen: Where once you load in your screen is angled and you have to rejoin to fix usually.
    Basically it comes down to this. On the 6th I downloaded the demo since all who pre-ordered had early access to it. That night I had one or two lockups with the sound looping problem where the game is frozen but Windows isn't and you can close the game down in Task Manager and then get back in game without a system restart. Valve issued the first patch that evening I think it was and then a second the next day or the day after. From the 6th until the 10th everything was okay except for the occassional lockup like I mentioned above or the minor server join bugs.

    It might have been late on the 10th or early the 11th when Valve issued the third patch and that's when the hard lockups started. Over the course of playing for about two and half hours that night I had five hard locks requiring a full system restart. Four were in-game and the fifth just sitting in a lobby waiting for the game to start. Every server I played on that night had choke ranging from 10 - 60 constantly while my ping was in the 80's or 90's.

    On the 12th I started reading through the Steam forums and the 411 forums and found a large number of posts with people who had either the looping sound crash or the lockup issue. Some suggest that L4D isn't handling multi cores very well which could be my problem as I'm running a Quad Core 2.

    After going through all the user fixes I went back into the game and turned off the sync with Steam Cloud, made sure V-sync was disabled, changed the page memory from high to medium and then opened the console to type in the mat_queue_mode 0 command to change from multi core to single core as several people said doing that solved their crashes and lockups. Low and behold the system locked up completely not more than 10 seconds after that while sitting at the menu screen

    Later that day I updated my DirectX files, and made sure all my drivers were up to date which they were before the 11th with the exception of the video card which I did that later night thinking the out of date driver was the source of the lockups which it wasn't. I then did the local content delete and re-downloaded the demo and made sure all the settings changes I did before were set without doing the mat_queue command. So far I haven't played the demo again to test it all out.

    Everything else I've run over the past month be it Stranglehold, Oblivion, COH, CS: Source and Quantum of Solace runs flawlessly (well, except Oblivion but anybody who knows that game knows all too well about its instability problems ). On the plus side, one of the Valve reps did show up in the major crash thread on the Steam forums to request information from all those who were experiencing crashes/lockups so they seem to be aware of the situation. Here's hoping they can get it sorted by the 18th.



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    Re: Left for Dead

    Wow thats frustrating. You tried a freaking lot of problem solving too
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    Re: Left for Dead

    Just incase anybody missed it, L4D is available for pre-load now on Steam.



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    Re: Left for Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Assault9 View Post
    Just incase anybody missed it, L4D is available for pre-load now on Steam.
    Yep. Game will be available to play 12:01 am EST on November 18.

    http://store.steampowered.com/news/2009/




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    Re: Left for Dead

    Well I downloaded the demo, I plan to buy the game in store though I get it 10 pounds cheaper that way and I get a box woot. So I played the easy level with bots first because this was mid day and it was easy lol, not very fun. Then I joined Silver, Bigeye and Dug for 4 player expert and that was more to my likeing they kindly put up with my noob questions and I think we had a fun time. It is very easy to switch over to from css just like switching to DOD.



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