Community Growth

[Turbinator]

No Turb, games on those servers suck 99% of the time because they are 30 man servers. NS doesn't work that way at all. And yes, we all know why TGNS is apparently dying, what we're discussing here is how to keep it from dying.

I said reason its dying is because of the new good games that were released, thats all. To keep the server alive well, people will have to get bored with CoD4/crysis/Assasins Creed, etc and will comeback.
This has happened in the past, quiet a few of regulars have played WoW, and those who tried know how addicting it was, and still came back to NS.

In due time people will return, regardless of the progress on NS2.

CoD4 on hardcore has different feel to it then NS, less action, the mode Search & Destroy on our Cod4 server is exactly same thing as Counter strike, plant the bomb on A or B, so my point is, it gets tiresome, since most of us played CS for some time, so CoD4 is different graphics with some cool perks(some overpowered).

it's the only server that disables blockscripts,

That means scripts allowed on the server?

[Dr. Pepper PhD.]

That means scripts allowed on the server?

It always has, as scripts are not changing the gameplay of it(i.e. hacking) The only assistance that scripts allow it is all stuff that you can do on your own just not necessarily in the order or at the same rate.

[xtcmen]

TGNS has been the only server (other than NSA VET for like 1 month) that has ever appealed to me. The community is great, and there is competitiveness among most players. Thats why I am sad to say that the game is dieing and deleting your ban.cfg or any other changes you have in mind only delays the inevitable.

This situation is kind of like stage 4 cancer. It slowly kills you, and it is very rare for anyone to overcome it. Chemotherapy and other methods only delay the process.

[Maps and Atlases]

TGNS has been the only server (other than NSA VET for like 1 month) that has ever appealed to me. The community is great, and there is competitiveness among most players. Thats why I am sad to say that the game is dieing and deleting your ban.cfg or any other changes you have in mind only delays the inevitable.

This situation is kind of like stage 4 cancer. It slowly kills you, and it is very rare for anyone to overcome it. Chemotherapy and other methods only delay the process.

lol

There are a few problems I see here. Not only is NS failing to attract enough new players to support the ones that are leaving, TG isn't bringing in any of the new players that are coming either. There are 3 groups of people that generally play on TG:

1. Newer players, who randomly join when the server has people on it, which is rare.
2. Veterans, who prefer to stay away from TG due to many of the rules they disagree with.
3. TG community members.

The TG community was large enough to keep the server full most of the time a year ago, but due to the lack of new players, the fixed playerbase has been dwindling since. I could go on and on about what rules and settings should be changed, but every time there's always a reason like 'we want mature and intelligent gameplay!' instead of 'we want to bring in new players so we can actually play the game!'.

For example, about a month ago I was playing NS alone with some friends. I don't remember my exact name, but it wasn't a swear or anything very offensive. TG was full, and I used a seed icon to join. I had forgotten to change my name, and couldn't change it because it was in the middle of a game. 5 minutes in, I had someone ask me to change it. I said I was really sorry that I couldn't, and I would change it as soon as possible since I did not want to reconnect (since I had used a seed credit to join). After I said this, Wyzcrack said something sarcastically along the lines of "cry me a river" and kicked me. I have no played there ever since.

It's really this type of attitude thats keeping me and quite a few people I know from playing there anymore. Sure, its your server with your rules: do what you want. I'm just letting you guys know why a large group of people stay away from TG.

[Pokerface]

lol

There are a few problems I see here. Not only is NS failing to attract enough new players to support the ones that are leaving, TG isn't bringing in any of the new players that are coming either. There are 3 groups of people that generally play on TG:

1. Newer players, who randomly join when the server has people on it, which is rare.
2. Veterans, who prefer to stay away from TG due to many of the rules they disagree with.
3. TG community members.

The TG community was large enough to keep the server full most of the time a year ago, but due to the lack of new players, the fixed playerbase has been dwindling since. I could go on and on about what rules and settings should be changed, but every time there's always a reason like 'we want mature and intelligent gameplay!' instead of 'we want to bring in new players so we can actually play the game!'.

For example, about a month ago I was playing NS alone with some friends. I don't remember my exact name, but it wasn't a swear or anything very offensive. TG was full, and I used a seed icon to join. I had forgotten to change my name, and couldn't change it because it was in the middle of a game. 5 minutes in, I had someone ask me to change it. I said I was really sorry that I couldn't, and I would change it as soon as possible since I did not want to reconnect (since I had used a seed credit to join). After I said this, Wyzcrack said something sarcastically along the lines of "cry me a river" and kicked me. I have no played there ever since.

It's really this type of attitude thats keeping me and quite a few people I know from playing there anymore. Sure, its your server with your rules: do what you want. I'm just letting you guys know why a large group of people stay away from TG.

So we should allow offensive names to persist?

I'm sorry you were kicked, but the reason was pretty clear, was it not?

[Maps and Atlases]

So we should allow offensive names to persist?

I'm sorry you were kicked, but the reason was pretty clear, was it not?

That's exactly the kind of attitude I'm talking about. You missed my point entirely: I wasn't talking directly about being angry for kicking me. I stated nicely that I would change it asap, because I couldn't right now and that rejoining would waste my seed credit. Instead of "Okay, since your name isn't blatant racism or anything horribly offensive we can wait 5 minutes so you can change your name and not waste your seed credit", I got "qq pvp server OUR ROOLZ CRY ME A RIVER".

And like I said, I'm not saying I really care, what happened happened and its your server and there's nothing I can do. But its attitude like this that REALLY turns off a lot of people.

[xtcmen]

It's not Pokerface's, Wyz's, or anyone else's fault. The game is dieing and the server is dieing with it.

[lagarto]

NS and the server are dying. Sure, but NS still affords to have ~ 70 people in american servers almost all the time. <BAD> and G4B2S are 60 people by themselves, add [I-AM] and some random servers and I think the number I gave is reasonable. However, TG has like .. 0 people almost all the time.

And just as an anecdote similar to Maps', I was kicked once for F4ing as soon as the "Opossing team won" message appeared. It pissed me off since it didn't interfere with what the rule for it specifies (the fact that I F4'ed at that point made no difference whatsoever to the game), but I had to wait in HLTV for about 5 minutes before I could rejoin the server, and late joining a game is not as fun. Sometimes it feels like the admins enforce rules way too prepotently.

But anyway, I think we should probably let go of TGNS until NS2 arrives.

[xtcmen]

But anyway, I think we should probably let go of TGNS until NS2 arrives.

So basically we should let go of TGNS all together? We should create a TGXBOX360HALO forum instead.

[lagarto]

Basically, we should let go of this OMGLOLDRAMA all together.

[Dr. Pepper PhD.]

Wait... has it changed that if you f4 you can change your name then get back into a game?... I mean that would be a way to not use another seed credit.

Granted I know that f4ing isn't legal anyways but would it change game since it will take just as long for another to reconnect?

[tr0gd0r3]

That's exactly the kind of attitude I'm talking about. You missed my point entirely: I wasn't talking directly about being angry for kicking me. I stated nicely that I would change it asap, because I couldn't right now and that rejoining would waste my seed credit. Instead of "Okay, since your name isn't blatant racism or anything horribly offensive we can wait 5 minutes so you can change your name and not waste your seed credit", I got "qq pvp server OUR ROOLZ CRY ME A RIVER".

And like I said, I'm not saying I really care, what happened happened and its your server and there's nothing I can do. But its attitude like this that REALLY turns off a lot of people.

I remember when I joined the TG server for the first time and my name was Pornchai (and still is of course).
I was told to change my name because it was offensive, and actually had to convince the admins that the name Pornchai comes from some asian country.
Next time say you're native, and that's your real name.
LzoL@

Anyways, I sympathize for you buddy.

[Pokerface]

That's exactly the kind of attitude I'm talking about. You missed my point entirely: I wasn't talking directly about being angry for kicking me. I stated nicely that I would change it asap, because I couldn't right now and that rejoining would waste my seed credit. Instead of "Okay, since your name isn't blatant racism or anything horribly offensive we can wait 5 minutes so you can change your name and not waste your seed credit", I got "qq pvp server OUR ROOLZ CRY ME A RIVER".

And like I said, I'm not saying I really care, what happened happened and its your server and there's nothing I can do. But its attitude like this that REALLY turns off a lot of people.

Either it's the attitude that will turn people off, or the offensive name (or language, or whatever...) that will turn people off. The administration has made its choice, and I'm very sorry to all those who would think that it's the wrong one.

If ever we die, our principles will die with us, and not before.

[Donat]

Better words were never spoken. Besdies, we all know we'll turn back to TGNS for NS2

[tr0gd0r3]

I don't know why this community favours principles over fun.
You can't practice these principles if no one comes around anymore...