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    Natural Selection Machinima (movies)

    Well recently I have been staring at all the cool Machinima out there and had plenty of ideas, one of course was the natural selection E-team which is suppose to make NS attention attracting stuff. So i thought it might be cool to make a Natural selection themed and filmed one for fun and use some voices from Tactical Gamer, of course.

    Just what is a Machinima? Machinima is the term used for videos taken/recorded in a game then added sound and effects to it to make a most of the time funny, and interesting vid. Such Machinima makers are the Smooth few film's The leet Word (Counterstrike): http://www.theleetworld.com/ Where some Terrorists and Counter-Terrorist are brought togehter to live under one roof. and the amazing quality and time put into the Lit Fuse's films (HL2): http://litfusefilms.com/. These are just a few examples.

    After cramming my head full of learning Faceposer (the program used for lit fuse films) i had thought also what could be for a Natural Selection one. It could not be that high of a quality as its not that new of a game but i think there could still be some funny and interesting things.


    This is begging to look like an essay, but we talked about it a bit on the server and Lost and Aga seemed to like it, though it gave Cyph a head ache We came up with a place with a fresh out of the TSA acadamy Squad of marines facing off on their first mission and beyond. And we thought of some personalies for the marines.

    Commander - Experienced and Though, knows his way around gun and the chair.
    Red Shirt - He who follows orders and dies first to save everyone else.
    Rambo - That guy that always runs alone, the lone wolf.
    Nosound or mic man - He's the one your screaming at.
    Newbie - Has he renamed himself off of NSplayer yet or does he just not get it.
    Law and Order - Do what the commander says and not listen to anyone else.
    Mild Man- He has seen a alien before!

    And things such as that, if anyone has 'story' suggestions i think lost has been writing them down thou we'll need to talk about it soon and get something solid down. If any pop up in your mind or you think that you would eventually like to either voice, help record / act, or possibly temporarily host a server just post here for now, we'll get something more organized later. For now we just need to think about Who's going to record it (chop has offered, lost too) and when to test things and meet.

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    Re: Natural Selection Machinima (movies)

    Just a heads up, movie making in NS is a total pain. You can't use your mouse reliability enough when reviewing the demo (WSAD and pitch\yaw speeds YUCK), replacing the cursor sprite with a transparent one if you're recording from a demo, and completely replacing all the hud sprites with transparencies. Also, (IIRC) the cool chase cam is only accessible from a 1 person listen server, although its been so long I can't remember.

    Unless you're planning on recording everything entirely in game while by yourself in a listen server, or with everybody on a recording server.

    Things you'll need:

    - Registered version of Fraps (unless you're doing it with 'movie' command that takes .bmps built into the engine)

    - VirtualDub, windows movie maker, or other video editing software to put all the fraps clips in order, or any other music\special effects. Windows movie maker tends to crash with large files.

    - A good video encoder if you don't want to use some other video programs built in encoders. I highly recommend the (free) SUPER encoding program. I think it can even encode into DivX.

    Either way Donat, you're looking at a LOT of work just so you know what you're getting into. I've made a few attempts at making movies for NS, they're mostly terrible. I am not sure if you'll encounter some of the same problems I had since you might not be working with demos. If you do make this work and have any technical questions, shoot me a PM. I really hope NS2 has some great support for movie making:

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3BV4puLXe4[/media] (new rig)
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oopPA-XPm9c[/media] (new rig)
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsMRT6eyBh4[/media] (old rig, terrible, good chases and most machinima-like)
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-IHoPeyqjs[/media] (old rig, very funny)
    [media]http://www.tacticalsites.com/~aeroripper/1.avi[/media] (old rig)
    [media]http://www.tacticalsites.com/~aeroripper/2.avi[/media] (old rig)

    Failed cloak rush (old rig)

    I completely forgot about a lot of these.
    Last edited by aeroripper; 03-20-2008 at 01:15 AM.

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    Re: Natural Selection Machinima (movies)

    Hehe yes i do recall your videos. But for what i'm thinking is that we'll need a server to set up, windows movie maker is free, so is divx and i haven't bought Fraps yet, then again my computer is still old and it'll be about a month till i'm able to update it, thou i'd probly just want to do the splicing and editing rather then recording with this comp.

    As for the hud problem, there is an easy solution. When in the ready room you have no icons, hud icons, weapons ect. Thus, if you can either noclip or teleport using maybe setpos and then teleport you can get anywhere in on the map you want, and you could even skulk F4 and do the same thing with no hud to record what you want.

    And i'd appreciate the help as i said, i'm interested in this type of stuff and just started teaching myself it. I'm also thinking about making other HL2 stuff, like a Griggs and Sheckly show :P

    Work goes easier with planning, thus is why i posted looking for interested people and assitance. I figure for filming you may only need 2-4 people for most of the clips but probly a full team for rushes, seiges, and start. Hehe i think this would make good banter for seeding TGNS untill people start joining. IT does have to be a custom server thou as we need to disable autoballance, make sure no tooltips or messages pop up, fiddle with commands and such and possibly do things that wouldn't normaly come up.

    Its good to know i have some one to assist with 'teaching' of possibly problems that pop up. and instead of the Fraps Overlay it would be great if i could do something like www.Unknownworlds.com/ or something hah.

    Any takers on doing voices, acting, or hosting a server? (I may beable to do it if i open my ports, i have 30 MBps internet now)

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    Re: Natural Selection Machinima (movies)

    I am will to help act, and screen write. I might do a voice, but I don't know how well that would sound .

    I can record it, ( at 1080p @ 60-100 FPS in fact ) and I will try to look into serveral recording software to see what would work the best for us. I also have Adobe Premiere to do the editing with, as well as several encoding programs.

    Here what I came up with last night.


    Idea for a line:
    Look it a wild Skulk. Come here nice doggy.

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    Start of movie.

    The marines beacon in at the start, into MS.
    Talking here, not sure about what yet.
    Commander gets into chair, 2 stay in base to build, the other four head out to explore. ( maybe all of them go? )

    Red Shirt or someone else wander near the lava, and says oh, that looks so cool, and trys to touch it. ( he dies )

    Explain how the people can respawn in.
    TSA keep a recording of your mind, and a dna sample, as soon as you die, your mind is extracted from your dead body, and a new one is grown. This takes a few seconds to do, then your new body is beamed into the IP, and your mind is restore to it. or something like that.


    Time passes somehow.

    2 marines shoot up another thinking it a fade because they see a shadow.

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    2 marines are walking around.

    Hey, look what I found! ( points to a gorge )
    What is it?
    I donít know, but it cute!
    Yea, your right there.
    What should we do with it?
    I don't know? Let take it back to the commander, he might give us something for it.

    Good idea.
    *takes gorge to marine start*

    Look comm. At what we found 
    Kill it, it a dangerous alien.

    Not it not!

    Yes it is.

    But it looks so cute! How can it be dangerous?

    It a gorge a highly deadly Alien lifeform.

    But it so cute, and it not doing anything dangerous, look it making it self a house to live in. * points at the wall of Ocs and such it is now building*

    Look at those spikes, they must be to keep the predidors away from eating such a cute creature.

    commander panics.

    Ocs finish and kill the marines, commander beacons, all marine look at the gorge and die again. Commnader beacons one more time, and the marines finaly get it and start to shoot it.

    Gorge and Ocs die.

    Later


    Onos is coming in one door, gorge is leaving by the other door in the room
    All marines have HMG and HA. Comm yells at them to stay to kill the onos that is coming.


    One of the marines: Follow the gorge!
    They all do.

    Commander watchs and yells at them to get back, they don't.

    He hops out of chair to build an obs to get them back.

    Onos eats him, as soon as he leaves.
    Commander then uses his welder to weld a way out. Onos dies, comm finish obs and beacons the marines back, who are doing somthing to the gorge.
    Current game name : |TG| Lost the Phantom Thief

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    Re: Natural Selection Machinima (movies)

    Quote Originally Posted by Donat View Post
    Commander - Experienced and Though, knows his way around gun and the chair.
    Red Shirt - He who follows orders and dies first to save everyone else.
    Rambo - That guy that always runs alone, the lone wolf.
    Nosound or mic man - He's the one your screaming at.
    Newbie - Has he renamed himself off of NSplayer yet or does he just not get it.
    Law and Order - Do what the commander says and not listen to anyone else.
    Mild Man- He has seen a alien before!

    Commander - Experienced and Though, knows his way around gun and the chair. ( Commander Level 5 ) I think I will make a short video of him getting in the chair, to show how good he is.
    Something like this:
    *Commander gets in chair*
    Text on Screen:
    Welcome to the Commander Chair Commander.
    Scanning level... ... ...
    Welcome Level 5 Commander, Activating Advance Commander Mode. (ACM)
    Command Station Online.

    Note in ACM the command chair has some new and intresting things that we can show off say.

    on the Obs, there is 2 beacon buttons.
    Beacon, Beacon removing all Armory and Prototech. ( for when you want to change that JP mess into a HA train.

    And other small things.



    Red Shirt - He who follows orders and dies first to save everyone else.

    Rambo - That guy that always runs alone, the lone wolf. ( maybe remove him, does not fit well with the others )

    No-Mic man - He's the one your screaming at. ( Not reasonable to assume no sound in the story, they are wearing helments. So, no mic is better for him, give him Microsoft bob's voice or something funny like that. He has to type in everything to say it, so it slow, and if he talking, he not doing anything else. He will find the gorge along with Newbie.

    Newbie - Has he renamed himself off of NSplayer yet or does he just not get it. He finds just about every way in the game to die. He finds the gorge and brings it back.

    Law and Order - Does exactly commander says and not listen to anyone else.
    He will go to double, not shooting anything, because the commander only told him to walk to double. He travels with Rambo.

    Mild Man/scared man- He has seen a alien before, but is deathly afraid of meeting one. He travels with red shirt, and ends up killing him once because he thinks he is a fade.
    Current game name : |TG| Lost the Phantom Thief

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    Re: Natural Selection Machinima (movies)

    Quote Originally Posted by aeroripper View Post
    Also, (IIRC) the cool chase cam is only accessible from a 1 person listen server, although its been so long I can't remember.
    I'm having to guess at which camera you mean here, do you mean the Free-spectate mode? Its not immediately accessible through normal menus, but it's still part of the engine. Join the Spectator team, then bring up console and type "spec_mode 3" to enable free-spectate, which lets you move the camera around the map as if you were flying, and lets you move through objects when necessary.

    If you meant some other camera mode, they're probably all still available while spectating. Plus spectators have no HUD for added bonus.
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    Re: Natural Selection Machinima (movies)

    I'm in. For voices, script help, sounds, whatever you need! .... as soon as my puter is fixed =(

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    Re: Natural Selection Machinima (movies)

    This is in a bit of limbo as i work on things. Still have plenty of RL stuff to worry about. I would like to have a meeting though to discuss ideas and scripts for this, so we'll see. either post here or PM me of times if your interested in acting, vocing, help writing, ect. then we can all make a time to meet and discuss.

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