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    Question Need help!

    My NS runs really slow and choppy, the admins before had helped me with the rates and it worked better until I ran the game again and was logging between 5 and 7 frames. Im just going to list everything I have even though I doubt hardware is the problem and if anyone knows some tricks please Im open.

    First of all I have Vista, but not for long, any settings changes needed for this OS? Interweb connection, Cable over gigabit router, wired. 8 gb ram. 9800gx2 on graphics.

    This seems like a fun game too, Ill just play Crysis on max graphics until NS is fixed
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    Re: Need help!

    Quote Originally Posted by dont ban me[R] View Post
    My NS runs really slow and choppy, the admins before had helped me with the rates and it worked better until I ran the game again and was logging between 5 and 7 frames. Im just going to list everything I have even though I doubt hardware is the problem and if anyone knows some tricks please Im open.

    First of all I have Vista, but not for long, any settings changes needed for this OS? Interweb connection, Cable over gigabit router, wired. 8 gb ram. 9800gx2 on graphics.

    This seems like a fun game too, Ill just play Crysis on max graphics until NS is fixed
    If I had the power I would be so tempted to ban you.

    As to your post, I don't have the faintest idea. If you could run Crysis why wouldn't you be able to run a hl mod? ... Probably Vista's fault.

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    Re: Need help!

    Sounds like a hardware conflict. There's no reason at all why you should be getting crappy fps like that. Do all of your HL1 mods run like this, or just NS?
    birdie_in_Texas:ok..i feel stupid here..what is "NS"..? Wyzcrak:Natural Selection. Don't feel at a loss for not knowing the acronym. Feel at a loss for not having experienced the game.

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    Re: Need help!

    The only half life mod I have is NS, should I try
    running something else an see what I get? Any
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    Just try running HL1 in general.
    birdie_in_Texas:ok..i feel stupid here..what is "NS"..? Wyzcrak:Natural Selection. Don't feel at a loss for not knowing the acronym. Feel at a loss for not having experienced the game.

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    Re: Need help!

    Half life has average 70 fps. Is there a command in NS
    that limits fps or internet in/out, something like that?
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    Re: Need help!

    The default max fps in Half Life games is 70 fps. Try a fresh install of NS, load up a local map and don't join a server and see what you get. If it's only when you conect to the server we know it's your internet connection.

    Do you have a firewall preventing NS from running properly? Sometimes they can cause just overload your RAM trying to stop a program.

    Honestly 8 gigs? Are you nuts?! I've got 2

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    Re: Need help!

    With a fresh install of NS offline the fps changes so fast
    but it looks like between 80 and 90. Online it drops to
    about 15 to 20. I never use Firewalls either.

    Yes I got 8 gigs, I dont want to upgrade my computer
    again for some time, other than XP.
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    You never use firewalls?
    That rings alarm bells on it's own...


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    Re: Need help!

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenPirate View Post
    You never use firewalls?
    That rings alarm bells on it's own...
    If never use firewalls he means because he's behind a router, then he's fine.

    Network lag would not affect his display FPS. The only thing that I could recommend to you would be to keep your GPU drivers up to date. Post your hardware details here too, maybe someone else on the interweb is having the same problem and they might chime in.
    birdie_in_Texas:ok..i feel stupid here..what is "NS"..? Wyzcrak:Natural Selection. Don't feel at a loss for not knowing the acronym. Feel at a loss for not having experienced the game.

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    Re: Need help!

    Quote Originally Posted by ImAWuss View Post
    Network lag would not affect his display FPS.
    I mean software firewall, in trying to stop your program it can easily choke your RAM in the process.

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    Re: Need help!

    I just got XP running and will try to re-install NS and see what I get.

    I did post hardware Wuss, its above and theres no way its at fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dont ban me[R] View Post
    I just got XP running and will try to re-install NS and see what I get.

    I did post hardware Wuss, its above and theres no way its at fault.
    What about processor?

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    Re: Need help!

    If you have the same trouble with XP. Try switchin between opengl and directx drivers in NS. Generally directx doesn't run as smoothly for hl1, but you shouldn't notice a difference with your system, and there might be some weird driver conflict.

    If not that, are you sure your not running a software firewall? If you have nvidia chipset mobo, the chipset drivers ask to install the network access mgr(/firewall) which has serious conflicts with most steam games.

    It seems clear that it is related to your network connection somehow, since you don't have the problem when you run it offline. If you have multiple NICs, try the other one, just to see if it makes a difference, and kill any other process that might use the network to see what might be interfering.

    Or maybe you just have too much ram, and NS is having multiple orgasms.

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    Re: Need help!

    Quote Originally Posted by lush View Post
    Or maybe you just have too much ram, and NS is having multiple orgasms.
    As Mr Pachino says, "Who-ahhhh"
    birdie_in_Texas:ok..i feel stupid here..what is "NS"..? Wyzcrak:Natural Selection. Don't feel at a loss for not knowing the acronym. Feel at a loss for not having experienced the game.

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