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    Captains Back to elementary school we go

    Hi guys tonight we came up with a new granted old concept. We choose captains and they hand picked there teams? This thread is for options and such. BTW props to the captains since i feel we all choose balanced teams.
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    Re: Captains Back to elementary school we go

    Choosing teams with captains provided for a more balanced and entertaining game. After playing several one sided games this evening, the change was welcome.

    I was very pleased with how things worked out. The captains did a very good job of choosing teams. I was somewhat skeptical of how fair the teams would be, but was pleasantly surprised by how the teams preformed.

    Something that I noticed that may or may not be true is that the players seemed to work together and generally play better than they would in a random team. I think having the leadership and organization improved the whole team beyond what a single skillful player can provide in a less organized game.

    I was on the winning team for both games so my opinions may be bias. It will be interesting to see the perspective of the loosing players.

    I would like to see us play both halfs instead of changing to a new map and reforming teams after 1 round.

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    Nothing but praise for the system. I didn't go into one of these games with that pending feeling of doom that plagues so many matches due to uneven skill distribution.
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    I had a great time. Things are planed before the game even begins. I'm all for more of this play.
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    I may have lost both games but I loved it. The games were more fair. To be honest i have been getting bored and frustrated with NS. We have alot of top level players and its just been killing the games for the past few months. I was also suprised it became one of our reg scrims today. We managed to be working together. I think we need to refine the system for usage on every map or rework the amx_random plug in to take player skill into account.
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    Captains FTW
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    Re: Captains Back to elementary school we go

    Who got picked last? It was zib wasnt it?

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    It'd be really nice if we could come up with a plugin for this, otherwise it'd only work with a server full of regs. I don't see anything wrong with the idea though.

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    Re: Captains Back to elementary school we go

    Last to be picked I believe was tempest the first time around and Nimbus the third trial. I had to leave for the second run of it.
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    Re: Captains Back to elementary school we go

    Quote Originally Posted by RGM-79N_GM_CUstom
    Last to be picked I believe was tempest the first time around...
    And I believe tempest was picked first in the 3rd game

    Interesting how different captains view the value of a player.

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    Re: Captains Back to elementary school we go

    Damn, I think I got on right after this happened. Actually, I suspect I might have kicked somebody when I joined right after teams had been picked, and been totally oblivious of it. Either way, I think this is an awesome idea, and a plug-in to enable it and do the grunt work would be amazing - I'm thinking 'choosecaptains Wyz Custom', 'cpt_select Zephyr'. Or else you could just make it lock out joining teams so any non-regs have a chance to understand what's going on. That said, I guess just evenly distributing non-regs, then selecting regs, then having an extra 'ready' ala pugging to quickly discuss strat would do just as well.

    Just thinking (and not too well) out loud. Also, to Enigma: you missed out on some good CSSing. Team TG-NS was owning it up! Except that Wyz refuses to shoot anything unless it looks like an alien, or he's sure it's on the other team.

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    Re: Captains Back to elementary school we go

    Quote Originally Posted by kormendi
    And I believe tempest was picked first in the 3rd game

    Interesting how different captains view the value of a player.
    Indeed, Tempest was my choice in the third round. That said, I understand why he went last the first time around, too. It all depends on what kind of holes you're seeking to fill in the team makeup.

    I liked it. I'm all for working to automate it somehow, but only as a convenience for picking teams and such; I still think just announcing intentions to a server full of regs is the best way to initiate the process.

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    Re: Captains Back to elementary school we go

    Bah, when I finally decided to play even though I really, really hate CS, the server was full.

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    Re: Captains Back to elementary school we go

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokerface
    Indeed, Tempest was my choice in the third round. That said, I understand why he went last the first time around, too. It all depends on what kind of holes you're seeking to fill in the team makeup.
    Poker feels (rightfully so) that filling the cannon fodder hole early is necessarry to absorb bites for the more competant players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest
    Poker feels (rightfully so) that filling the cannon fodder hole early is necessarry to absorb bites for the more competant players.
    We whupped Custom's team up one side and down the other, didn't we?

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