Rough Roster

attrition · 03-14-2005, 12:54 PM

NS Public Community Server Tournament

Tournament will start on March 26th, Rosters must be in by the 25th

I copied names out of the original thread; here is a list of people who are interested and their eligibility status.

kormendi
Pokerface
TheFenix
Hi I’m Zek
RGM-79N GM Custom
DON.MAC
j
Enigma
Rampage
WILDCHILD
(dabe was comptetitive => out)
Wuss
Ninja Pirate Assassin
Micr0c0sm
[Taco]Maniac (eligibility?)
al
BATMAN
(Bobislongenough alias? I’ve never seen him before… was competitive => out)
T BEAR
Keres
(Mito was competitive => out)
Tempest
attrition
Zephyr
Zib
(were you ever competitive Wyze?)

If we are going to do this we should sort out who's going to do this for sure, if anyone on that list has eligibility issues, who’s going to be on what team, and when we should practice / form our game plans.

Keep in mind that if anyone lies about been a competitive player the whole team is disqualified.

**Pokerface** · 03-14-2005, 01:02 PM

Tactical Rage -- the closest thing that TG has ever had to an in-house clan -- was never in CAL.

**TheFeniX** · 03-14-2005, 01:42 PM

We're making two teams?

We'll need to effectively split up our resources then. We need our two "best" commanders, fades, etc to be recognized and split up. We don't want a massive skill stack on one team. I think we'd do good to spread the talent around.

I'll leave the details to other people as I think I actually need to do some work today.

**RGM-79N_GM_CUstom** · 03-14-2005, 02:00 PM

kormendi
Pokerface
TheFenix
Hi I’m Zek
RGM-79N GM Custom
DON.MAC
j
Enigma
Rampage
WILDCHILD
Wuss
Ninja Pirate Assassin
Micr0c0sm
[Taco]Maniac
al
BATMAN
T BEAR
Keres
Tempest
attrition
Zephyr
Zib

Good Comms:
Wyz, Tempest, Keres, Fenix, Pokerface, Custom,

Good Fades:
Zek, T_Bear, attrition, custom, microcosm, kormendi

Good Lerks:
Maniac, attrition, Wuss

Good Skulks:
Wyz, Zek, T_Bear, attrition, custom, kormendi, j, enigma, microcosm, al

Good Marine:
Everyone on that list all are very good shoots and follow orders.

Good Gorges:
Everyone.

Please if you feel you belong in a category just post it and I will add you.

**kormendi** · 03-14-2005, 02:15 PM

You can take my name off the list, I committed to a different team before Wyz said he would be forming a team... stupid me for jumping the gun.

micr0c0sm · 03-14-2005, 02:25 PM

I was in a clan that didnt last past one scrimm...we broke apart after one scrimm although our name was on the CAL list...does that even count if we didnt start the season? it was xP or xT (the xenocide project or exterminators... we didnt even agree on a name!)

(*hoping not*)

Splitting by skill I like a lot...I wouldnt be surprised if it was TG vs. TG for the final match lol. That would be amazing and ironic. It would also get a lot more exposure for this server, which is a good thing IMHO.

**kormendi** · 03-14-2005, 02:35 PM

micro, there are a few people in a similar situation. Unfortunately no one has gotten a response... the NSlearn folk aren’t doing a good job of responding to posts on their forum.

http://amobile.org/nslearn/viewtopic.php?t=284

**Wyzcrak** · 03-14-2005, 03:02 PM

With so many interested parties wanting to play in this tournament because their CAL experience was minimal or "so long ago," I can appreciate NSLearn's need to lay down a clear and across-the-board rule of CAL EXPERIENCE (EVER) = NO TOURNEY.

That having been said, what they're really going for is the exclusion from the tournament of players who consider themselves competitive. The goal is to bridge the gap between competitive players and non-competitive players, and that all falls apart if you sprinkle CAL players in with "pubnubs" (like me). This is going to be accomplished by having competitive players coach teams of non-competitive players.

I would have a very difficult time getting bob or mito into the tournament, as they were members of established teams who played entire seasons. I don't see someone meeting micro's description as causing a problem.

I'll be sending a PM to every person submitted as part of our roster and demanding that they confirm they've never been part of a competitive team that played a season through in CAL. It's too easy for me to do that. I'll then double-check the eligibility of anyone I think should be allowed to play despite negligible CAL exposure.

DON.MAC · 03-14-2005, 04:28 PM

So far we have 21 likely participants. This leaves us with only five substitutes to split between two teams. With the scale of the scheduling conflicts between TG's CS:S teams (and those matches are only 6v6) I think two or three substitutes per team is too risky.

To create balanced teams, why don't we elect team leaders and have them choose their players captains style? We could have a little scrim and any obvious team deficiencies could be remedied with some player trading. Perhaps that's not the most scientific process, but I think it would be fairly time efficient and a lot more fun than discussing it ad nauseam in the forums.

dabe · 03-14-2005, 04:39 PM

what CAL clan was i in?

**Wyzcrak** · 03-14-2005, 04:41 PM

Cut the crap. If you weren't in a clan, say so and we'll get you included.

**Pokerface** · 03-14-2005, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabe

what CAL clan was i in?

From your reaction in the other thread, we are lead to believe that you were once a competitive NS player (in the "CAL" sense, not in the "descriptive adjective" sense).

Is this not so?

dabe · 03-14-2005, 04:58 PM

then you misunderstood my reaction.

and don't worry about it. i don't want to play.

**Wyzcrak** · 03-14-2005, 04:58 PM

All worrying has ceased. Thank you for the clarification.

**snappy** · 03-14-2005, 05:09 PM

Good luck guys. I will be out of town for this. That is a sweet line-up.... (except for T-BEAR). Can't wait to see the demos!

03-14-2005, 12:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
attrition Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: WI Age: 22 Posts: 37	Rough Roster NS Public Community Server Tournament Tournament will start on March 26th, Rosters must be in by the 25th I copied names out of the original thread; here is a list of people who are interested and their eligibility status. kormendi Pokerface TheFenix Hi I’m Zek RGM-79N GM Custom DON.MAC j Enigma Rampage WILDCHILD (dabe was comptetitive => out) Wuss Ninja Pirate Assassin Micr0c0sm [Taco]Maniac (eligibility?) al BATMAN (Bobislongenough alias? I’ve never seen him before… was competitive => out) T BEAR Keres (Mito was competitive => out) Tempest attrition Zephyr Zib (were you ever competitive Wyze?) If we are going to do this we should sort out who's going to do this for sure, if anyone on that list has eligibility issues, who’s going to be on what team, and when we should practice / form our game plans. Keep in mind that if anyone lies about been a competitive player the whole team is disqualified.

03-14-2005, 01:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pokerface Join Date: May 2003 Location: MD, USA Age: 30 Posts: 5,768	Re: Rough Roster Tactical Rage -- the closest thing that TG has ever had to an in-house clan -- was never in CAL. __________________ NS Game Officer. TF2 Admin. BF2 Admin / Scripter. PM with issues. Tempus: Pokerface is nailing it right on the head. Everyone who is arguing against him is simply arguing against reality. <anmuzi> it is not permitted to have privacy or anonymity <LazyEye> yeah when I play on TG the server digs though my trash Arm yourself with knowledge: TG NS TF2 BF2

03-14-2005, 01:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
TheFeniX Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 26 Posts: 4,478	Re: Rough Roster We're making two teams? We'll need to effectively split up our resources then. We need our two "best" commanders, fades, etc to be recognized and split up. We don't want a massive skill stack on one team. I think we'd do good to spread the talent around. I'll leave the details to other people as I think I actually need to do some work today. __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TheFeniX's Steam Profile TG's Team Fortress 2 Steam Group

03-14-2005, 02:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
RGM-79N_GM_CUstom Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Paterson, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 2,165	Re: Rough Roster kormendi Pokerface TheFenix Hi I’m Zek RGM-79N GM Custom DON.MAC j Enigma Rampage WILDCHILD Wuss Ninja Pirate Assassin Micr0c0sm [Taco]Maniac al BATMAN T BEAR Keres Tempest attrition Zephyr Zib Good Comms: Wyz, Tempest, Keres, Fenix, Pokerface, Custom, Good Fades: Zek, T_Bear, attrition, custom, microcosm, kormendi Good Lerks: Maniac, attrition, Wuss Good Skulks: Wyz, Zek, T_Bear, attrition, custom, kormendi, j, enigma, microcosm, al Good Marine: Everyone on that list all are very good shoots and follow orders. Good Gorges: Everyone. Please if you feel you belong in a category just post it and I will add you. __________________ RX-78-2 Gundam EFSF Protoype Close Combat Mobile Suit Armor: Luna Titanium Armament: 2x Beam Sabers, 2x 60mm Head vulcan guns 380mm Hyper bazooka, Beam Rifle, Beam Javelin, Hyper Hammer, Gundam Hammer, shield TG Natural Selection admin. Need anything PM me. 7th Infantry FTW!!!!! "Snob? Nah...I consider myself more of a PC Evangelist...converting the heathens to The Way." Prophaniti "Windows is like Pokemon you gotta catch'em all." kenshinsama1

03-14-2005, 02:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
kormendi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 2,170	Re: Rough Roster You can take my name off the list, I committed to a different team before Wyz said he would be forming a team... stupid me for jumping the gun.

03-14-2005, 02:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
micr0c0sm Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 657	Re: Rough Roster I was in a clan that didnt last past one scrimm...we broke apart after one scrimm although our name was on the CAL list...does that even count if we didnt start the season? it was xP or xT (the xenocide project or exterminators... we didnt even agree on a name!) (hoping not) Splitting by skill I like a lot...I wouldnt be surprised if it was TG vs. TG for the final match lol. That would be amazing and ironic. It would also get a lot more exposure for this server, which is a good thing IMHO.

03-14-2005, 02:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
kormendi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 2,170	Re: Rough Roster micro, there are a few people in a similar situation. Unfortunately no one has gotten a response... the NSlearn folk aren’t doing a good job of responding to posts on their forum. http://amobile.org/nslearn/viewtopic.php?t=284

03-14-2005, 03:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,148	Re: Rough Roster With so many interested parties wanting to play in this tournament because their CAL experience was minimal or "so long ago," I can appreciate NSLearn's need to lay down a clear and across-the-board rule of CAL EXPERIENCE (EVER) = NO TOURNEY. That having been said, what they're really going for is the exclusion from the tournament of players who consider themselves competitive. The goal is to bridge the gap between competitive players and non-competitive players, and that all falls apart if you sprinkle CAL players in with "pubnubs" (like me). This is going to be accomplished by having competitive players coach teams of non-competitive players. I would have a very difficult time getting bob or mito into the tournament, as they were members of established teams who played entire seasons. I don't see someone meeting micro's description as causing a problem. I'll be sending a PM to every person submitted as part of our roster and demanding that they confirm they've never been part of a competitive team that played a season through in CAL. It's too easy for me to do that. I'll then double-check the eligibility of anyone I think should be allowed to play despite negligible CAL exposure. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

03-14-2005, 04:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
DON.MAC Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 162	Re: Rough Roster So far we have 21 likely participants. This leaves us with only five substitutes to split between two teams. With the scale of the scheduling conflicts between TG's CS:S teams (and those matches are only 6v6) I think two or three substitutes per team is too risky. To create balanced teams, why don't we elect team leaders and have them choose their players captains style? We could have a little scrim and any obvious team deficiencies could be remedied with some player trading. Perhaps that's not the most scientific process, but I think it would be fairly time efficient and a lot more fun than discussing it ad nauseam in the forums.

03-14-2005, 04:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
dabe Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6	Re: Rough Roster what CAL clan was i in?

03-14-2005, 04:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,148	Re: Rough Roster Cut the crap. If you weren't in a clan, say so and we'll get you included. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

03-14-2005, 04:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
dabe Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6	Re: Rough Roster then you misunderstood my reaction. and don't worry about it. i don't want to play.

03-14-2005, 04:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,148	Re: Rough Roster All worrying has ceased. Thank you for the clarification. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

03-14-2005, 05:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
snappy Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 44	Re: Rough Roster Good luck guys. I will be out of town for this. That is a sweet line-up.... (except for T-BEAR). Can't wait to see the demos!

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