Head Shots on NS?

4mn3s14 · 08-18-2004, 12:09 PM

a few days ago (monday) i started playing ns. im pleased to announce its very enjoyable and a good break from tfc, opforce, and cs. i like it because the targets are extremely fast and small (damn those skulks...) making it a lot more interesting than cs, where all you need is to fire 3 bullets to kill someone. anyways, i was wonderin, is it possible to head shot on ns, and how? i mean, i know you point at their head and shoot, but how do you head shot a skulk when its zooming around at break neck speeds? what about other marines; i play a lot of ns_ maps so i usually don't encounter other marines. and onos? its head is the size of a marine, is it possible to increase my damage to it by aiming at the battering ram they call its head?

**TheFeniX** · 08-18-2004, 12:19 PM

There is no hit detection in NS for good reason. The head of most aliens faces forward. If an alien is attacking a marine, almost all hits would be head shots. Unfair advantage. Also, aiming bites is very hard except for maybe lerks.

4mn3s14 · 08-18-2004, 12:35 PM

k thnx, when i was playin ns on de_dust2 some person told me that there were hs's. oh well.

Sniper · 08-18-2004, 02:35 PM

It waay differet from cs... you cant even compare them

**Tempus** · 08-18-2004, 03:32 PM

Did he say he was playing ns on de_dust2??

Addict · 08-18-2004, 03:45 PM

I've played on NS:Combat servers that include CS maps. I wouldn't be surprised if someone had made ns_ maps out of them too. Generally they don't work well though, since the terrain is set up for both sides haveing guns, the aliens can be seen/shot from far far away, and it's hard to stop jump packs with a wide open sky(though of course you can only go up so high). However, you can move REALLY far REALLY fast blinking or flying....

de_dust2 has a absolutely despiseable location for the CC too. Incredibly hard to get to. Especially if they have the Cheesy respawn option on.

Stupid · 08-18-2004, 07:45 PM

zT has a server that runs 28 players and lots of customized CO maps -- from DoD, CS, TFC, etc etc etc... fun at times, but mostly not as it's a lot of MvM. HA / HMG / CrackPacks FTW!

jackel · 08-18-2004, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper

It waay differet from cs... you cant even compare them

Your right, NS is just to damn good to be compared to a lower mod like CS. :P

Sniper · 08-18-2004, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackel

Your right, NS is just to damn good to be compared to a lower mod like CS. :P

Amen... too bad I dont play it anymore.. well actually I do when I'm not tending to my "peons" on my server :P

4mn3s14 · 08-18-2004, 10:39 PM

ive ditched cs. ever since steam has taken over ive seen more speed hacks than ever before. though i happend to nail one in the face with a xm shotty before he could knife my eyes out.

Sniper · 08-18-2004, 10:48 PM

That's why I only play on servers I am admin on...

(5 servers)

Wintermute · 08-20-2004, 12:06 PM

CS can be good if you "play it right" as we once did at N42 and as they still do over at www.deadmen.co.uk

Emanon · 08-20-2004, 02:43 PM

Reason for there being no HS hitbox is because the HL engine is limited to i believe 4 hitboxes? And with all the different sizes of aliens its very hard to just get a Hitbox for each class. This is a reason for the buggy hitbox for the crouched fade. The crouched fade uses a crouched marine hitbox which is much smaller than the model.

4mn3s14 · 08-30-2004, 12:49 AM

hrm, so if i blinked around while crouched... *evil contemplation* muahahahah!!! i am invincible!!!

Stupid · 08-30-2004, 01:38 AM

No -- good players know to shoot you in the crotch. When you duck, your crotch is just lower - but it'll still hurt like hell when a lvl3 shotty hits it.

08-18-2004, 12:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
4mn3s14 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 15	Head Shots on NS? a few days ago (monday) i started playing ns. im pleased to announce its very enjoyable and a good break from tfc, opforce, and cs. i like it because the targets are extremely fast and small (damn those skulks...) making it a lot more interesting than cs, where all you need is to fire 3 bullets to kill someone. anyways, i was wonderin, is it possible to head shot on ns, and how? i mean, i know you point at their head and shoot, but how do you head shot a skulk when its zooming around at break neck speeds? what about other marines; i play a lot of ns_ maps so i usually don't encounter other marines. and onos? its head is the size of a marine, is it possible to increase my damage to it by aiming at the battering ram they call its head?

08-18-2004, 12:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
TheFeniX Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 26 Posts: 4,478	Re: Head Shots on NS? There is no hit detection in NS for good reason. The head of most aliens faces forward. If an alien is attacking a marine, almost all hits would be head shots. Unfair advantage. Also, aiming bites is very hard except for maybe lerks. __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TheFeniX's Steam Profile TG's Team Fortress 2 Steam Group

08-18-2004, 12:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
4mn3s14 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 15	Re: Head Shots on NS? k thnx, when i was playin ns on de_dust2 some person told me that there were hs's. oh well. __________________ --------------------------------------------------- Physics exploits are what make the world go round :)

08-18-2004, 02:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sniper Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis Age: 20 Posts: 1,724	Re: Head Shots on NS? It waay differet from cs... you cant even compare them __________________ New Server1 IP. Read the stickies!! This is how you check your STEAMID and register it.

08-18-2004, 03:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tempus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Age: 38 Posts: 8,252	Re: Head Shots on NS? Did he say he was playing ns on de_dust2??

08-18-2004, 03:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Addict Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 413	Re: Head Shots on NS? I've played on NS:Combat servers that include CS maps. I wouldn't be surprised if someone had made ns_ maps out of them too. Generally they don't work well though, since the terrain is set up for both sides haveing guns, the aliens can be seen/shot from far far away, and it's hard to stop jump packs with a wide open sky(though of course you can only go up so high). However, you can move REALLY far REALLY fast blinking or flying.... de_dust2 has a absolutely despiseable location for the CC too. Incredibly hard to get to. Especially if they have the Cheesy respawn option on.

08-18-2004, 07:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Stupid Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: God's Country - Texas Posts: 637	Re: Head Shots on NS? zT has a server that runs 28 players and lots of customized CO maps -- from DoD, CS, TFC, etc etc etc... fun at times, but mostly not as it's a lot of MvM. HA / HMG / CrackPacks FTW! __________________ Former TGNS admin until WoW blinded me with flashy lights.

08-18-2004, 10:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
4mn3s14 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 15	Re: Head Shots on NS? ive ditched cs. ever since steam has taken over ive seen more speed hacks than ever before. though i happend to nail one in the face with a xm shotty before he could knife my eyes out. __________________ --------------------------------------------------- Physics exploits are what make the world go round :)

08-18-2004, 10:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sniper Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis Age: 20 Posts: 1,724	Re: Head Shots on NS? That's why I only play on servers I am admin on... (5 servers) __________________ New Server1 IP. Read the stickies!! This is how you check your STEAMID and register it.

08-20-2004, 12:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Wintermute Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Age: 24 Posts: 1,166	Re: Head Shots on NS? CS can be good if you "play it right" as we once did at N42 and as they still do over at www.deadmen.co.uk __________________ Wintermute Play EVE online. It's like being an accounting addict in space. www.MakePovertyHistory.com

08-20-2004, 02:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
Emanon Banned Join Date: May 2003 Age: 25 Posts: 1,249	Re: Head Shots on NS? Reason for there being no HS hitbox is because the HL engine is limited to i believe 4 hitboxes? And with all the different sizes of aliens its very hard to just get a Hitbox for each class. This is a reason for the buggy hitbox for the crouched fade. The crouched fade uses a crouched marine hitbox which is much smaller than the model.

08-30-2004, 12:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
4mn3s14 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 15	Re: Head Shots on NS? hrm, so if i blinked around while crouched... evil contemplation muahahahah!!! i am invincible!!! __________________ --------------------------------------------------- Physics exploits are what make the world go round :)

08-30-2004, 01:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
Stupid Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: God's Country - Texas Posts: 637	Re: Head Shots on NS? No -- good players know to shoot you in the crotch. When you duck, your crotch is just lower - but it'll still hurt like hell when a lvl3 shotty hits it. __________________ Former TGNS admin until WoW blinded me with flashy lights.

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