SM kicking system + respect

lochness · 03-24-2007, 03:52 AM

First off i'd to bring up my disapproval with how the supporting member/reserve slot kicking system works. On multiple occasions (with usually me being the victim), the sm kicking system kicks me, a registered player, over many other non-registered players (question marks) in the server. It was to my understanding that the reserve system was in opposite to this. main issue is first point.

ChopStick · 03-24-2007, 05:28 AM

http://www.tacticalgamer.com/natural...gb-revamp.html

Go read that.

**Ferris Bueller** · 03-24-2007, 12:26 PM

Chop is right. Read stickies. Save lives.

Zek · 03-24-2007, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopStick

http://www.tacticalgamer.com/natural...gb-revamp.html

Go read that.

How does this address his complaint?

**Wyzcrak** · 03-24-2007, 01:06 PM

His complaint is that SMs bump registered players despite the existence of unregistered players?

If he reads about the gb revamp, he's most likely to remain on the server as long as is possible, given his non-SM options.

It might not solve his complaint (which isn't going to be solved), but it addresses it? Or perhaps I'm missing something?

lochness · 03-24-2007, 02:06 PM

* understand that registered players who choose not to opt-in to share the 'gb' burden are just as vulnerable to being bumped as are unregistered players when a Supporting Member joins the full server.

does that mean if i opt in to use gb i wont be bumped by sms? or not?

**Wyzcrak** · 03-24-2007, 02:55 PM

If you're a non-SM who is not opted-in to 'gb', the server looks first to bump you when someone successfully joins the full server.

If you're a non-SM who is opted-in to 'gb', the server looks to bump you only when there are no non-SMs who are not opted-in.

**Pokerface** · 03-24-2007, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

If you're a non-SM who is not opted-in to 'gb', the server looks first to bump you when someone successfully joins the full server.

If you're a non-SM who is opted-in to 'gb', the server looks to bump you only when there are no non-SMs who are not opted-in.

Don't take opting in lightly. It's not there so you keep from getting kicked. It's there so you can help take ownership of the server and keep it a place worth playing.

The non-getting-kicked part is a carrot, but if you're not willing to share in the burden of administration, don't sign up.

**zibalatz** · 03-24-2007, 03:15 PM

In particular, any player opted-in to gb who has demonstrated a lack of responsibility in their accepted duties will see an administrative response.

**Ferris Bueller** · 03-24-2007, 09:10 PM

Basically, bottom line is this in a nutshell:
Dont opt in and you're just as likely to be slotted as ?'s. Opt in and ?'s get slotted first, then non-SM's, just like it used to be. However, if you opt in and a situation merits GB use, you are REQUIRED to use it, regardless of whether or not something important is happening (i.e. youre the fade in the middle of trying to save a hive and someone needs to be GB'd: too bad, you get to stop fighting and take care of it, then rejoin the fight). Its fairly simple.

IOOB_583 · 03-24-2007, 09:35 PM

*sniff - got my reg fixed up today and am puttin in bucks to a good place (as of today) but got booted twice today already to make room for a supporting member. I believe in supporting a good place - just wonderin how long it takes to kick in.

aeroripper · 03-25-2007, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IOOB_583

*sniff - got my reg fixed up today and am puttin in bucks to a good place (as of today) but got booted twice today already to make room for a supporting member. I believe in supporting a good place - just wonderin how long it takes to kick in.

AFAIK, You will need to put your steamid in your forum profile, and read and sign the TGNS primer stickied in this forum with your steamid as indicated. Then it should show your SM icon on the scoreboard and prevent you from being bumped by SMs.

Not sure if you *just* need your steamid in your forum profile for it to register you as a SM (eliminate bumps) on the server (albeit with a question mark), but you'll want to read the primer anyhow

.

Kerostasis · 03-25-2007, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IOOB_583

*sniff - got my reg fixed up today and am puttin in bucks to a good place (as of today) but got booted twice today already to make room for a supporting member. I believe in supporting a good place - just wonderin how long it takes to kick in.

Hi, and thanks for offering to help support our server!

You'll notice that it has already kicked in on your forum profile...you are now marked as an SM on the forums. And you have a reserved slot. However...you havent told the server how to recognize you when you try to log on yet, so even though you have a reserved slot waiting for you, you can't actually USE it yet.

The stickied threads in the NS forums should explain everything you need to know to get the server to recognize you. If you need any further help, just ask someone.

**snooggums** · 03-25-2007, 12:47 PM

If I was opted in before becoming an SM am I still obligated to kick the troublemakers or would I need to opt out if I wanted to continue being a not so great fade?

**zibalatz** · 03-25-2007, 01:10 PM

ignore this post
(i killed the original content because it was incorrect and would only contribute to misunderstanding)

03-24-2007, 03:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
lochness Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7	SM kicking system + respect First off i'd to bring up my disapproval with how the supporting member/reserve slot kicking system works. On multiple occasions (with usually me being the victim), the sm kicking system kicks me, a registered player, over many other non-registered players (question marks) in the server. It was to my understanding that the reserve system was in opposite to this. main issue is first point. Last edited by lochness; 03-24-2007 at 04:08 AM.

03-24-2007, 05:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
ChopStick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Age: 21 Posts: 289	Re: SM kicking system + respect http://www.tacticalgamer.com/natural...gb-revamp.html Go read that.

03-24-2007, 12:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ferris Bueller Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 26 Posts: 5,159	Re: SM kicking system + respect Chop is right. Read stickies. Save lives. __________________ \|TG-6th\|Ferris Bueller Important TG Reading \| Support TG - Become a Supporting Member \| TacticalWiki - Your TG Guide Kicked/Banned? READ THIS FIRST! \| Complete list of TG Admins \| Think Someone Did A Good Job? Nominate Them For a Ribbon! Report Problem Players/Appeal Your Ban \| Learn TG - The TG Mentoring Program __________________ "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." -Lazarus Long

03-24-2007, 01:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,148	Re: SM kicking system + respect His complaint is that SMs bump registered players despite the existence of unregistered players? If he reads about the gb revamp, he's most likely to remain on the server as long as is possible, given his non-SM options. It might not solve his complaint (which isn't going to be solved), but it addresses it? Or perhaps I'm missing something? __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

03-24-2007, 02:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
lochness Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7	Re: SM kicking system + respect * understand that registered players who choose not to opt-in to share the 'gb' burden are just as vulnerable to being bumped as are unregistered players when a Supporting Member joins the full server. does that mean if i opt in to use gb i wont be bumped by sms? or not?

03-24-2007, 02:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,148	Re: SM kicking system + respect If you're a non-SM who is not opted-in to 'gb', the server looks first to bump you when someone successfully joins the full server. If you're a non-SM who is opted-in to 'gb', the server looks to bump you only when there are no non-SMs who are not opted-in. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

03-24-2007, 03:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
zibalatz Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 899	Re: SM kicking system + respect In particular, any player opted-in to gb who has demonstrated a lack of responsibility in their accepted duties will see an administrative response. __________________ Cool! Personalized plates! Barclay, Barry, Bert, Bort...come on...Bort?

03-24-2007, 09:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ferris Bueller Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 26 Posts: 5,159	Re: SM kicking system + respect Basically, bottom line is this in a nutshell: Dont opt in and you're just as likely to be slotted as ?'s. Opt in and ?'s get slotted first, then non-SM's, just like it used to be. However, if you opt in and a situation merits GB use, you are REQUIRED to use it, regardless of whether or not something important is happening (i.e. youre the fade in the middle of trying to save a hive and someone needs to be GB'd: too bad, you get to stop fighting and take care of it, then rejoin the fight). Its fairly simple. __________________ \|TG-6th\|Ferris Bueller Important TG Reading \| Support TG - Become a Supporting Member \| TacticalWiki - Your TG Guide Kicked/Banned? READ THIS FIRST! \| Complete list of TG Admins \| Think Someone Did A Good Job? Nominate Them For a Ribbon! Report Problem Players/Appeal Your Ban \| Learn TG - The TG Mentoring Program __________________ "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." -Lazarus Long

03-24-2007, 09:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
IOOB_583 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fort Montgomery NY Posts: 124	Re: SM kicking system + respect *sniff - got my reg fixed up today and am puttin in bucks to a good place (as of today) but got booted twice today already to make room for a supporting member. I believe in supporting a good place - just wonderin how long it takes to kick in. __________________ Don't let the bastards grind you down!

03-25-2007, 12:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
snooggums Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 31 Posts: 617	Re: SM kicking system + respect If I was opted in before becoming an SM am I still obligated to kick the troublemakers or would I need to opt out if I wanted to continue being a not so great fade?

03-25-2007, 01:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
zibalatz Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 899	Re: SM kicking system + respect ignore this post (i killed the original content because it was incorrect and would only contribute to misunderstanding) __________________ Cool! Personalized plates! Barclay, Barry, Bert, Bort...come on...Bort? Last edited by zibalatz; 03-25-2007 at 08:26 PM.

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