Seed Credits - Page 2

**Wyzcrak** · 04-23-2007, 11:31 PM

Find me on IM (see profile: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, IRC, XFire, GTalk). We'll talk through the possible failure points as I look at the code.

The good news is that credits continue to accumulate despite the join code not being quite right yet (and we'll have that solved in a matter of days, if not sooner).

bentring · 04-24-2007, 11:56 PM

Will there ever be a way people can see how many credits they have?

**Wyzcrak** · 04-25-2007, 12:04 AM

Not on the server. You view this from the webpage linked to in this thread's first post.

Boogalo · 04-25-2007, 09:42 AM

I'm continuously amazed by the amount of work you guys put into interesting scripts that make life better for us on the server. This one though, is particularly brilliant.

Yer Mom · 04-28-2007, 01:12 PM

So, just so I know I'm right. When I successfully connect to the server via a seed credit, it uses ONE seed credit, correct?

-Mom

**Wyzcrak** · 04-28-2007, 01:43 PM

Correct. Also, the server goes out of its way to avoid bumping you for the duration of your connection. It can happen, but it's unlikely.... cause... how much would it suck to lose a credit only to get bumped halfway through your game?

Guys, please test this today, and please follow the following procedure if the connection fails, even if you don't have the patience to do all the steps.

1. PM (in these forums) me a list of players on the server when your attempt failed
2. tell me the approximate time
3. tell me the map the server was on
4. tell me WHICH SERVER you tried to join
5. try to find me immediately on IM

You can get a playerlist for either server here:

http://www.tacticalgamer.com/cmsinde...age=serverlist

( or by clicking on Games>Server List above.

**Wyzcrak** · 04-28-2007, 06:16 PM

Many thanks to Radix and Roland, both of whom helped me test this and work out the kinks.

Joining the full server should now function exactly as it's described. Please use the above post to report experiences that suggest otherwise.

freebirdpat · 04-30-2007, 02:48 PM

I viewed this page: (http://tacticalgamer.com/ns) while not logged into the forums and it shows a Seed Credit count of 8, not sure where that is coming.

**Wyzcrak** · 04-30-2007, 06:39 PM

I've fixed that. Thank you for pointing it out.

Guys, I can't tell you how valuable information/feedback about new stuff is. These plugins are things we (TG devs) develop in our spare time (which is quite limited** when you've got a career, small child, and sundry other blessings), and testing is never as robust as it should be, especially for solutions that often require lots of people to adequately test.

Never hesitate to give me feedback on these plugins if you think it will be helpful, even if "helpful" is pointing out some major code screw-up I've committed. And never mistake my not acting on feedback as my not caring (see above**).

**usererror** · 04-30-2007, 11:04 PM

I also have a seed credit count of 5 when I should only have 1.

**Wyzcrak** · 04-30-2007, 11:23 PM

Without making things complicated, let me just say: continue to monitor the value and let me know if it continues to grow or shrink well beyond your expectations.

lush · 05-02-2007, 05:13 PM

Ya, i've got like 14 scr, but i was playin on co a bunch. *shrug*

Also, I tried the give command, but I got no feedback (not sure if it didn't like the name I used, etc). Didn't get a bad command error or anything tho.

freebirdpat · 05-02-2007, 09:06 PM

Mine shows 1 scr, I think I started with 1 or gained one in some way and used it, and now gained one recently. Seems to be working correctly for me so far.

**Pokerface** · 06-06-2007, 09:20 AM

Due to a bug found in the code, we have discovered that some people were seeing their credits increase at an exponential rate, rather than the incremental rate of the design.

Additionally, this has led us to consider a maximum, which we have implemented along with the fix for the above error.

What does this mean?

We have implemented a cap of 30 seed credits per user.. If your total before this discovery was above 30, you should find that it has been set to 30 now. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to ask me or Wyzcrak.

Ness2 · 10-30-2007, 04:13 AM

Okay let me make sure I have this right, (I haven't been on the server for a while, this whole seed credit thing is brand new to me :P). Each person who seeds the server, and by doing so allows for a game of NS, gets one seed credit. These credits are used to force the connection if the server if full. Each time the connection is forced it uses one credit. Does this apply to SM,s since it used to be if there was any ? marks an SM could force the connection and kick a ? mark?

04-23-2007, 11:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Seed Credits Find me on IM (see profile: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, IRC, XFire, GTalk). We'll talk through the possible failure points as I look at the code. The good news is that credits continue to accumulate despite the join code not being quite right yet (and we'll have that solved in a matter of days, if not sooner). __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

04-24-2007, 11:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
bentring Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: west TN Posts: 162	Re: Seed Credits Will there ever be a way people can see how many credits they have? __________________ aka Roland (the Headless Thompson Gunner; not of Gilead)

04-25-2007, 12:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Seed Credits Not on the server. You view this from the webpage linked to in this thread's first post. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

04-25-2007, 09:42 AM	#19 (permalink)
Boogalo Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 25 Posts: 50	Re: Seed Credits I'm continuously amazed by the amount of work you guys put into interesting scripts that make life better for us on the server. This one though, is particularly brilliant.

04-28-2007, 01:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
Yer Mom Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TN Age: 22 Posts: 789	Re: Seed Credits So, just so I know I'm right. When I successfully connect to the server via a seed credit, it uses ONE seed credit, correct? -Mom __________________ Yer Mom /O> To all but me is the look given but never received. My heart sinks faster and faster every time I look into them, yet I do not understand their controling power on my soul. - W11114m W45h1n670n

04-28-2007, 01:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Seed Credits Correct. Also, the server goes out of its way to avoid bumping you for the duration of your connection. It can happen, but it's unlikely.... cause... how much would it suck to lose a credit only to get bumped halfway through your game? Guys, please test this today, and please follow the following procedure if the connection fails, even if you don't have the patience to do all the steps. 1. PM (in these forums) me a list of players on the server when your attempt failed 2. tell me the approximate time 3. tell me the map the server was on 4. tell me WHICH SERVER you tried to join 5. try to find me immediately on IM You can get a playerlist for either server here: http://www.tacticalgamer.com/cmsinde...age=serverlist ( or by clicking on Games>Server List above. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

04-28-2007, 06:16 PM	#22 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Seed Credits Many thanks to Radix and Roland, both of whom helped me test this and work out the kinks. Joining the full server should now function exactly as it's described. Please use the above post to report experiences that suggest otherwise. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

04-30-2007, 02:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
freebirdpat Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60	Re: Seed Credits I viewed this page: (http://tacticalgamer.com/ns) while not logged into the forums and it shows a Seed Credit count of 8, not sure where that is coming.

04-30-2007, 06:39 PM	#24 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Seed Credits I've fixed that. Thank you for pointing it out. Guys, I can't tell you how valuable information/feedback about new stuff is. These plugins are things we (TG devs) develop in our spare time (which is quite limited when you've got a career, small child, and sundry other blessings), and testing is never as robust as it should be, especially for solutions that often require lots of people to adequately test. Never hesitate to give me feedback on these plugins if you think it will be helpful, even if "helpful" is pointing out some major code screw-up I've committed. And never mistake my not acting on feedback as my not caring (see above). __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

04-30-2007, 11:04 PM	#25 (permalink)
usererror Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: BC! Age: 19 Posts: 22	Re: Seed Credits I also have a seed credit count of 5 when I should only have 1.

04-30-2007, 11:23 PM	#26 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: Seed Credits Without making things complicated, let me just say: continue to monitor the value and let me know if it continues to grow or shrink well beyond your expectations. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

05-02-2007, 05:13 PM	#27 (permalink)
lush Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ottawa, ON Age: 30 Posts: 48	Re: Seed Credits Ya, i've got like 14 scr, but i was playin on co a bunch. shrug Also, I tried the give command, but I got no feedback (not sure if it didn't like the name I used, etc). Didn't get a bad command error or anything tho.

05-02-2007, 09:06 PM	#28 (permalink)
freebirdpat Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60	Re: Seed Credits Mine shows 1 scr, I think I started with 1 or gained one in some way and used it, and now gained one recently. Seems to be working correctly for me so far.

06-06-2007, 09:20 AM	#29 (permalink)
Pokerface Join Date: May 2003 Location: MD, USA Age: 29 Posts: 5,722	Re: Seed Credits Due to a bug found in the code, we have discovered that some people were seeing their credits increase at an exponential rate, rather than the incremental rate of the design. Additionally, this has led us to consider a maximum, which we have implemented along with the fix for the above error. What does this mean? We have implemented a cap of 30 seed credits per user.. If your total before this discovery was above 30, you should find that it has been set to 30 now. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to ask me or Wyzcrak. __________________ NS Game Officer. TF2 Admin. BF2 Admin / Scripter. PM with issues. Tempus: Pokerface is nailing it right on the head. Everyone who is arguing against him is simply arguing against reality. <anmuzi> it is not permitted to have privacy or anonymity <LazyEye> yeah when I play on TG the server digs though my trash Arm yourself with knowledge: TG NS TF2 BF2

10-30-2007, 04:13 AM	#30 (permalink)
Ness2 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The boonies of NH Age: 21 Posts: 17	Re: Seed Credits Okay let me make sure I have this right, (I haven't been on the server for a while, this whole seed credit thing is brand new to me :P). Each person who seeds the server, and by doing so allows for a game of NS, gets one seed credit. These credits are used to force the connection if the server if full. Each time the connection is forced it uses one credit. Does this apply to SM,s since it used to be if there was any ? marks an SM could force the connection and kick a ? mark? __________________ :) All but two is one!:)

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