ns_saturn new map

aeroripper · 07-12-2007, 08:55 PM

We played a few rounds of this map on the server. What are your thoughts, is it fun or not?

release thread here:

Ns_saturn UWE forums

**ImAWuss** · 07-12-2007, 09:55 PM

First thought: The mini map is HOT.

I only had the chance to play one round as marine. I enjoyed the open hallways and rooms. The map was textured nice, but some rooms reminded me of other maps. I cant comment on balance yet, as I've only played 1 round as marine. I dunno...

As far as rotation, I'd add it. Otherwise, it will never get played out.

o-|-E StixNStonz · 07-13-2007, 12:27 AM

The map has huge potential. I pointed out just about everything that needs a-fixin, since there are some trouble siege spots, and a new route is *highly* suggested, but it would still be awesome to play.

Its got the same issues as i had with the first builds of Nexus; bad things that players can do and were unintended, that will take some serious work to fix up... and you almost want to make a server rule to not use a certain siege, etc. But that just doesnt cut it

orlanth · 07-13-2007, 03:44 AM

Just looked at it.

Best mini-map ever.

Marine start has the same problem as ns_metal, it's too big, fades will own it ... only the exits are more in size, but still quite large and difficult to block a fade.

The hive rooms seem well designed with them varying in size from small to large.

Only other negative may be that there are quite a few long hallways where ranged weapons cannot be countered.

It is quite a nice looking map as well, however, it is quite a large map. Marines will probably have an advantage if games go long like on ns_machina.

I say put it in the rotation and see how it goes.

1Stop|Beowulf · 07-13-2007, 05:34 AM

double is h4x

**Dead_Meat** · 07-13-2007, 11:10 AM

seems intresting right now
i like how its not cluddered alll the rooms seem simple easy and on the eyes
i need to play it more
cargo (i think thats it) seems a little to easy to siege

Enigma · 07-13-2007, 05:10 PM

I don't know about everyone else, but when I was playing on aliens I had an extremely hard time figuring out which exit to take to get where I needed to go. The long hallways and big node rooms make it extremely hard for aliens to take down nodes, too. The walkway into the Observatory node room is too long. Cargo hive is terrible for aliens, too. When marines get to Loading Bay and get a phase up, you can pretty much kiss that hive goodbye.

It's pretty, at least. The hallways remind me of "Alien" a lot, and Observatory node room is taken directly from it.

**Dead_Meat** · 07-13-2007, 07:16 PM

i would like to see this map in rotation
i think it will be a very nice map with a few tweaks

komodor · 07-14-2007, 09:58 AM

i think there is missing some trash, crates and furniture in those halls and coridors, skulks has no space where to hide ... not many, like one or two pieces for some spots, just to make map more rugged/indented (sorry dunno what word to use)

LazyEye · 07-14-2007, 12:33 PM

We could also try this map. http://www.ansl.us/publicfiles/ns_trochus2j.zip

Its kind of a veilish type map thats easy to learn. Its gotten a lot of hate on the ansl forums but it didn't look that bad.

aeroripper · 07-14-2007, 02:47 PM

Trochus is on the server, we played it a few weeks back and most of the players hated it as well. It needs a lot of work.

Agamemnon · 07-14-2007, 04:49 PM

I personally have no desire to see trochus again until the right hive has more than one exit. There's a very good reason no other hive in ns can be completely cut off by marines holding one room. Yes, there is a vent out of the hive, but the vent comes out within line of sight of the room the marines would be in, meaning two marines can indefinitely contain the entire alien team. As I recall, the node distribution is also heavily marine biased, with four nodes right outside MS, which would be the next problem to work on after fixing that hive.

Saturn seemed alright, though I haven't seen the map from the ground yet. I didn't see any obvious flaws in terms of balance from the layout of the map.

Cain · 07-14-2007, 05:35 PM

New version is out with some fixes. Go, go, go?

Kerostasis · 07-15-2007, 03:51 PM

This is a great looking map, that still needs a little work to be ready for prime-time. However it looks like the creator is busily making most of the fixes that need to be made, so I've got good hopes for the map. The latest beta is definately a big step forward.

Turbinator · 07-16-2007, 03:23 AM

I looked at the pics of the minimap..

WOW, the best minimap ever!.

07-12-2007, 08:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
aeroripper Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 25 Posts: 2,291	ns_saturn new map We played a few rounds of this map on the server. What are your thoughts, is it fun or not? release thread here: Ns_saturn UWE forums

07-12-2007, 09:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
ImAWuss Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Hampshire, USA Age: 27 Posts: 560	Re: ns_saturn new map First thought: The mini map is HOT. I only had the chance to play one round as marine. I enjoyed the open hallways and rooms. The map was textured nice, but some rooms reminded me of other maps. I cant comment on balance yet, as I've only played 1 round as marine. I dunno... As far as rotation, I'd add it. Otherwise, it will never get played out. __________________ Read the TG Primer, the TGNS Primer and most importantly, the TGNS Rules \| My Website!! birdie_in_Texas:ok..i feel stupid here..what is "NS"..? Wyzcrak:Natural Selection. Don't feel at a loss for not knowing the acronym. Feel at a loss for not having experienced the game.

07-13-2007, 12:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
o-\|-E StixNStonz Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 72	Re: ns_saturn new map The map has huge potential. I pointed out just about everything that needs a-fixin, since there are some trouble siege spots, and a new route is highly suggested, but it would still be awesome to play. Its got the same issues as i had with the first builds of Nexus; bad things that players can do and were unintended, that will take some serious work to fix up... and you almost want to make a server rule to not use a certain siege, etc. But that just doesnt cut it __________________

07-13-2007, 03:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
orlanth Join Date: May 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 22	Re: ns_saturn new map Just looked at it. Best mini-map ever. Marine start has the same problem as ns_metal, it's too big, fades will own it ... only the exits are more in size, but still quite large and difficult to block a fade. The hive rooms seem well designed with them varying in size from small to large. Only other negative may be that there are quite a few long hallways where ranged weapons cannot be countered. It is quite a nice looking map as well, however, it is quite a large map. Marines will probably have an advantage if games go long like on ns_machina. I say put it in the rotation and see how it goes. Last edited by orlanth; 07-13-2007 at 03:46 AM. Reason: forgot one comment

07-13-2007, 05:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
1Stop\|Beowulf Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Age: 20 Posts: 152	Re: ns_saturn new map double is h4x

07-13-2007, 11:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dead_Meat Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 207	Re: ns_saturn new map seems intresting right now i like how its not cluddered alll the rooms seem simple easy and on the eyes i need to play it more cargo (i think thats it) seems a little to easy to siege

07-13-2007, 05:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Enigma Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Age: 68 Posts: 264	Re: ns_saturn new map I don't know about everyone else, but when I was playing on aliens I had an extremely hard time figuring out which exit to take to get where I needed to go. The long hallways and big node rooms make it extremely hard for aliens to take down nodes, too. The walkway into the Observatory node room is too long. Cargo hive is terrible for aliens, too. When marines get to Loading Bay and get a phase up, you can pretty much kiss that hive goodbye. It's pretty, at least. The hallways remind me of "Alien" a lot, and Observatory node room is taken directly from it. __________________ "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one conciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

07-13-2007, 07:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dead_Meat Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 207	Re: ns_saturn new map i would like to see this map in rotation i think it will be a very nice map with a few tweaks

07-14-2007, 09:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
komodor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Peru Posts: 25	Re: ns_saturn new map i think there is missing some trash, crates and furniture in those halls and coridors, skulks has no space where to hide ... not many, like one or two pieces for some spots, just to make map more rugged/indented (sorry dunno what word to use)

07-14-2007, 12:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
LazyEye Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minnesota Age: 25 Posts: 247	Re: ns_saturn new map We could also try this map. http://www.ansl.us/publicfiles/ns_trochus2j.zip Its kind of a veilish type map thats easy to learn. Its gotten a lot of hate on the ansl forums but it didn't look that bad.

07-14-2007, 02:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
aeroripper Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 25 Posts: 2,291	Re: ns_saturn new map Trochus is on the server, we played it a few weeks back and most of the players hated it as well. It needs a lot of work.

07-14-2007, 04:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
Agamemnon Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 28 Posts: 289	Re: ns_saturn new map I personally have no desire to see trochus again until the right hive has more than one exit. There's a very good reason no other hive in ns can be completely cut off by marines holding one room. Yes, there is a vent out of the hive, but the vent comes out within line of sight of the room the marines would be in, meaning two marines can indefinitely contain the entire alien team. As I recall, the node distribution is also heavily marine biased, with four nodes right outside MS, which would be the next problem to work on after fixing that hive. Saturn seemed alright, though I haven't seen the map from the ground yet. I didn't see any obvious flaws in terms of balance from the layout of the map.

07-14-2007, 05:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cain Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 128	Re: ns_saturn new map New version is out with some fixes. Go, go, go?

07-16-2007, 03:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
Turbinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,082	Re: ns_saturn new map I looked at the pics of the minimap.. WOW, the best minimap ever!. __________________

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