Yer Mom

I will be explaining how to set up Hammer, how to create objects, apply textures, and create entities. These are only the VERY basics of Hammer's abilities, and it's what I've figured out over about 4 days of playing with Hammer. You'll be learning 4 days of my labor in about an hours time. I've already taught Xtcmen the basics, and it's 1:22 AM and he was only just now able to pull himself away from making boxes and wedges and ramps and stuff.

If there are NO objections to Thursday night at 5 PM central time, then it's official. Speak NOW or forever hold your peace.

-Mom

__________________
Yer Mom /O>

To all but me is the look given but never received. My heart sinks faster and faster every time I look into them, yet I do not understand their controling power on my soul. - W11114m W45h1n670n

sUZY dERKINS

BOOYAKASHA

i call it

co_computadora

i cant figure out if this comes out as an ns map or a co map but its suposed to be a co, trust me.
i havent added lights or stuff more than some proxy crates but i still think this map will play well from a tactical standpoint
especially once i add lighting and real objects in place of the crates
sorry rines you have to build the armory

http://fileanchor.com/59597-d
http://fileanchor.com/59599-d

im going to be online @ 128.172.222.94
if anybody wnats to come hangout cyall lata
password is TGNS i dont know if caps matters or not

ill probably be on till 7 or 8 am eastern, though i may be afk in order to do some lat late dinner/breakfast

Curlydave

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Best map ever made. It would be better as an NS map though.

sUZY dERKINS

i have a few cool ns ones planned out but i dont know if i have the time to do them
ns_sealab...


btw im now working on a version of computadora thats sort of in an alien homeworld type setting

just having some fun with the program

Yer Mom

Last call for objections to TGNS Map Making Teamspeak session dated Thursday, September 7th, 2006 at 5:00 PM CENTRAL time.

Any objections posted later than midnight tonight (Wednesday) will not be concidered.

-Mom

__________________
Yer Mom /O>

To all but me is the look given but never received. My heart sinks faster and faster every time I look into them, yet I do not understand their controling power on my soul. - W11114m W45h1n670n

Curlydave

^^^^^^^^

I'll be there.

sUZY dERKINS

as will, and i will bring e-freshments

Irish Pirate

I should be able to make it if I'm not overwhelmed with work.

If you compile your map you will need to do some things to make it 'functional' enough for you to test it. Even if it has errors you can run it but I'll warn you everything will be blindingly bright. Most errors will stop the compiling before it finishes RAD and just leaves all the textures at thier brightest. I don't know if this works for NS but in the event you have no player start in TFC maps you would end up starting at 0 0 0 coordinates (marked by those nifty lines in the middle of your map in hammer).

I have hammer all set up and I have started thinking about map layout.

__________________

Curlydave

Apparently you do not need to edit any text files to make hammer 4, the one in the source SDK to work for NS. Just make a custom config under tools, options after launching it with any existing config. It will show up in the list of configs the next time you run the source SDK.


Start suggesting ideas for map theme/atmosphere, and map layout designs.

Yer Mom

Well if we're all working on the same map, I've already started a map that's going to be a factory/processing plant. I'm looking for a lot of steam and pipes and catwalks that are elevated above the bottom floors in most of the rooms. These catwalks need to be small enough to fit a player on, and not take up too much of the room so the comm can drop things inside.

I'm working with Hammer 3.4, but working with Hammer 4 would be a lot easier for me because it's where most of my experience resides. There's not much of a difference, but there are small things.

As for compiling the map, the only problem you will run in to is making the compiler open NS rather than HL. I'll explain (and discuss) compiling the maps and configurations therein at the TS session.

-Mom

__________________
Yer Mom /O>

To all but me is the look given but never received. My heart sinks faster and faster every time I look into them, yet I do not understand their controling power on my soul. - W11114m W45h1n670n

Curlydave

It is up to you if you want to complete it alone, or turn it into a community project. If you want the latter, i'll gladly help. Will need info on the layout, etc and probably the WIP RMF file.

Irish Pirate

I've never set a compiler to run a game automatically. You end up with a bsp either way. Once you start your lan/listen server "map <mapname>" or selecting it from the list tends to work.

I can tell you from experience, trying to put pieces from different files together can be a little more complicated than you might think. It's certainly managable though.

If we do this as a group effort I have a couple suggestions.

Start every entity name with some part of your name (ex. irishdoor1, momweldable).

Create vents and hallways as a part of putting it all together not as a part of your room or area. This will help make the map a bit more fluid. You can however, and I would recommend this, determine where the vents/entrances/exits to your area are and leave openings there. (Be sure to tell the person assembling it where they all are and how many you have.)

I could give more advice to the person who does the assembling but nothing else comes to mind that people making pieces should worry about.


If you could get a basic layout plotting out where different rooms and areas are I would be happy to make a room or two for you. We may want to coordinate textures before starting maps to coordinate who is doing what and come up with recommended textures.

__________________

Darkilla

I will definatly be there, providing school doesn't get in the way...'
I'm still looking for a solid way around the bad topo of my school network...
but the meeting shouldn't be a problem.

Yermom, Get a slideshow up somewhere, where we can see visuals... it will be MUCH easyier for us to understand I think

and, most probably, everyone should have Hammer installed (doing that tonight), and atleast know how to do SOMETHING, doesn't really matter what.

Btw, can anyone do textures?

__________________
Ambriento for comm! Vote today!

Curlydave

Excellent points. What I was thinking is that we have a starting section, and different people can build off of it, ensuring everything matches up. Then others can build off of those sections. We should avoid having people start unconnected sections to keep it from turning it into a jigsaw puzzle. The problem here is that people will be waiting to do parts. Pephaps we can have two starting sections to build off of.

As for textures and consistency, that can be straghtened out after we finish the geometry and have a working map. I usually don't bother with textures until the basic layout is done.

xtcmen

I screwed around with hammer with mom last night. I have to say it is really fun. I Just don't know how the ns devs made all those maps it is so freakin hard.