it's not about hives. it's about res nodes.

**Wyzcrak** · 11-29-2003, 10:48 PM

And the sooner you get that through your think skull, the sooner you'll find yourself winning more NS games than you lose.

You guys have heard me preaching it for a few weeks now, and I hope you're picking up on it. If you're 15 minutes into the game, it's a little late. You have to adopt this standpoint from bell one.

Marines don't matter. Run from marines, meet near res nodes. Attack res nodes. Move to next res node.

Early in the game, you can run circles around the marines when it comes to traveling the map. Take advantage of that, and take down the res nodes faster than they can put them up.

Wyzcrak

**_Ender_** · 11-29-2003, 11:02 PM

Sounds like wyz had a bad game ^^

**verbose** · 11-29-2003, 11:04 PM

Example from today: Against the panicked requests of my team, I _did not_ help defend EQ hive against the marines phasing in, but instead used my gorging powers to destroy two marine res nodes on the other side of the map, and to re-cap four nodes. We ended up losing the hive, but because the marines we completely occupied with the assault, I walked the map and set us up for a major res advantage. Not many minutes later, we had the hive going back up, two fades, and an onos. Needless to say, we won, soundly.

**Wyzcrak** · 11-29-2003, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by verbose

Example from today: Against the panicked requests of my team, I _did not_ help defend EQ hive against the marines phasing in, but instead used my gorging powers to destroy two marine res nodes on the other side of the map, and to re-cap four nodes. We ended up losing the hive, but because the marines we completely occupied with the assault, I walked the map and set us up for a major res advantage. Not many minutes later, we had the hive going back up, two fades, and an onos. Needless to say, we won, soundly.

Actually, this thread is motivated by weeks of people failing to see more than 90 seconds in front of them. Wake up folks. See the battles and the struggle in the big picture (*gasp* STRATEGY). This thread is an effort to create more players with the foresight to do exactly what verbose described above.

Res nodes win games. Hives just help you do it.

Wyzcrak

**NothingMore.** · 11-30-2003, 03:17 AM

While it sounds pretty obvious, this thread is very true =P.

Think about it, With out resc, what can you do?

Well...
You can run in circles!
Bite marines!
Kill yourself!
Jump in the lava! (if you happen to be on origin)
Explore the map!
Shoot aliens!
Run from aliens!
Run from marines!

As you can see, I left out the following:
Get upgrades!
Get heavy guns!
Get heavy armor!
get jet packs!
Drop hives!
Go onos!
Go fade!
Go lerk!
Go gorge!
Drop Rescource nodes!

All of the seccond category seem to be critical to winning don't they? Aside from killing eachother. So, by the power of deduction, the most important thing in the game is, and always will be, rescources.

**Tempus** · 11-30-2003, 01:38 PM

This goes for marines too. You have no idea how many times the game will start and a marine will run to a hive and say to me, "Give me a TF here now!"

**Daxx** · 11-30-2003, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Wyzcrak

Actually, this thread is motivated by weeks of people failing to see more than 90 seconds in front of them. Wake up folks. See the battles and the struggle in the big picture (*gasp* STRATEGY). This thread is an effort to create more players with the foresight to do exactly what verbose described above.

I employ Ms. Cleo. Pwn.

**CaveDog** · 12-03-2003, 02:58 PM

I will go so far as to say that as aliens, the second hive is very useful (gives you movment chambers), but that the res for the third hive is better spent elsewhere (that is, unless the team is just rolling in it).

And by else where, I would say 4 ocs for the hive(s) or resource chambers, or most of a fade.

The only time I see 3 hives as needed is when you really need acid rockets for fade. But, then again, see the current thread about what we all think about that.... topic: "f4!"

**Emanon** · 12-09-2003, 01:09 PM

As a commander I could care less about attacking hives untill its late in the game, Sure let them have 3 hives, As long as you have constant pressure on the alien team they wont stray to much and take out your RTs.

**billybob** · 12-10-2003, 12:20 AM

and as a marine use your self as a moveable turret to defend the res node you just put up...

dont stray to far....

i have saved countless res nodes because after capping it i stayed near it to defend against skulks...

at least until its electrified