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cl_cmdrate upate and all that good stuff!
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11-18-2005, 11:06 PM #1
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Setting topic
what should the reccomneded setteings be?...
cl_cmdrate upate and all that good stuff!
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11-19-2005, 12:14 AM #2
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Re: Setting topic
I'm assuming you're on broadband. Set as follows:
rate 20000
cl_updaterate (avg fps / 2)
cl_cmdrate (avg fps)
So, I typically run at 100fps, so mine are set as follows:
rate 20000
cl_updaterate 50
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Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.
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11-19-2005, 01:13 AM #3
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Re: Setting topic
Wyz, if my average FPS is 72 and I have a 291 k according to toast.net,
rate 20000
cl_updaterate 36
cl_cmdrate 72
Would be good to enter into NS console? Currently everything is default.
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11-19-2005, 01:22 AM #4
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Re: Setting topic
right on maybe we should set up a sticky info for this. and mention to members to look on forums so that they do not ned to wait for a admin , and they can fix for themselves!
thank you very much
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11-19-2005, 05:34 AM #5
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Re: Setting topic
That seems good, yes.
Originally Posted by Karkianman101
Wyz, if my average FPS is 72 and I have a 291 k according to toast.net,
rate 20000
cl_updaterate 36
cl_cmdrate 72
Would be good to enter into NS console? Currently everything is default.
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Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.
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11-19-2005, 02:40 PM #6
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Re: Setting topic
You were supposed to copy and paste your other reply from the CS:S section.
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11-19-2005, 03:05 PM #7
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Re: Setting topic
Given my understanding, those settings would be great. Originally Posted by Karkianman101
You were supposed to copy and paste your other reply from the CS:S section.
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11-23-2005, 08:21 AM #8
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Re: Setting topic
Another suggestion is to lock your FPS at a lower number than the average. For example my home computer is locked at 72 FPS (fps_max 72), and I base my update/cmdrate off of that as wyz suggested. The idea is to use a number your computer can easily stay at all of the time, even in heavy combat. Also remember that the server itself can set a cmd/update/rate lock that is lower than your own client settings. If you run into issues, this is usually the cause. Try lowering all of your rates to compensate until you stop getting choke (net_graph 3).
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11-23-2005, 09:27 AM #9
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Another idea.... bow before Adj. Originally Posted by TheAdj`
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11-23-2005, 10:38 AM #10
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Aye, tis nice to use the internet and speak to people that live in reality. It won't be a brief visit, however :P We bought a commercial internet satellite dish, so I have access on my own computer now, so I'll be around, albeit in forum format until April or so. I'll be around sometime in January as well, my leave is then. I'll put my time to good use by trolling this forum and answering questions as I can.
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11-30-2005, 12:22 AM #11
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Re: Setting topic
Another point to remember--higher is better, yes, but beyond a certain point the extra benefit you get is so small as too be almost unnoticeable.
If I recall, the default cmdrate and updaterate are only 20, which is really too low. But as soon as you reach 30-40, you're in pretty good shape. Sure, you could set your command rate up to 100, but given human reaction times of around 1/15 of a second, and lag at around 1/30 of a second even for the best connections, how often is that 1/100 of a second going to matter?
Then again, I could be totally wrong. =P
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11-30-2005, 01:53 AM #12
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Re: Setting topic
I say this based on consistent observation, not any intimate knowledge of HL (actually, that goes for most advice I give on how to configure a client):
Many (not all) crackly voicecomm problems are solved by raising cl_cmdrate to 100. It allows your client to send more data when you speak, thus remedying the crackling, which is data loss.Steam Community? Add me. | Join #tacticalgamer | Search Results Legend | New Posts Forum Filter | Postbox Toggle | Live Thread Review | One Line Results | Free Remote, Encrypted Backup
Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.
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11-30-2005, 08:25 PM #13
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Re: Setting topic
Is my voicecom crackly? I have my rates set to 40.
Also, don't these things interact with some other more obscure rates like ex_interp?
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11-30-2005, 08:41 PM #14
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Re: Setting topic
I'm sure it's more complicated than I make it out to be. I can't speak to your voicecomm quality.
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Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.
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12-02-2005, 02:34 PM #15
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Re: Setting topic
ex_interp does indeed interact with updaterate. If set to 1, I believe it automatically corrects itself according to updaterate, or it can be set manually. There are a couple of other more obscure settings as well (cl_resend, etc) that aren't as critical to smooth operation on most computers.
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