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10-06-2009, 10:04 PM #1
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First Impressions
I've played a couple of hours and so far it is alot of fun. I will say that it is no ArmA to start off. It is more of a BF2/COD melded with a a massive open world and good simulation of ballistics and penetration, and a little touch of ArmA mixed in.
First off with all settings maxed at 1680x1050 it runs smooth as silk regardless of what is happening on screen. The view distance is awesome and the game itself looks good as well. It won't win any graphical awards but being able to sustain the view distance that it does that is an acceptable trade off.
They stuck true to their original intentions which was to bring the most realistic title to date to the consoles, not to the PC however :/. It is still alot of fun to play and the use of tactics is necessary. I've gotten myself killed quite a few times already by being stupid. It is possible to run and gun to a certain extent but most of the time you'll find your self in a position that is not healthy and you'll most likely end up dead.
The AI are hit or miss, quite literally. Sometimes they can't hit the broad side of a barn and sometimes you catch one right to the melon. They don't seem to use controlled bursts to any effect either, almost everything I've seen is spraying in full auto. Your friendly AI seem to be pretty competent aside from not always moving when you want them too. When they fall back under fire they stay low, and stop from time to time to return fire and suppress then commence movement.
There are also some console touches, such as the almost non-existent gun sway while moving scoped in and the tiny recoil. Also in regards to the review from Norway I posted earlier, I don't know what the reviewer was talking about with the ammo situation. The only time I have really come close to running out of ammo is when I was heavily engaged because of a mistake that I made and the enemy bodies do not disappear after 30 sec, i'm going to have to call BS on him for that.
Overall the weapons handle nicely, it is not always easy to hit the target which is a good thing. It's hard to hit anything with the red dot site and there is no sighting system for the GL's so it's going to take time to get used to their feel. The thermal scopes almost seem like a hack they're so effective but such is the nature of the beast i guess. The damage system is also pretty good, most times I get completely incapacitated rather than just injured. The AI medic is also pretty dodgy, I've only tried to use him a couple of times and those times his path finding skills were lacking and I ended up dying. That wouldn't be a problem in Coop though.
The command menu can be a little annoying. Not only trying to find the correct command but the fact that you have to close it manually after you issue an order with the 'q' key. Sometimes you'll issue an order you didn't want to because it uses to the wasd cluster to navigate the menu resulting in an errant order. Just one more thing to get used to. You also cannot move while issuing orders, that would be much worse if that the AI were super accurate though, which they're not.
So first impressions is that it's a good game in it's own right if you approach it from that perspective. Don't expect ArmA and don't expect the arcade feeling of COD/BF2, have an open mind and have fun. I haven't had a chance to play online yet but I expect the Coop will be the best mode at least untill or if they release a dedicated server.
Anyone else have any thoughts?

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.
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10-06-2009, 10:19 PM #2
Re: First Impressions
nice write-up... I played for about 3 minutes earlier... hopping in game now (hopefully coop) and will post first impressions here.

|TG-12th|WhiskeySix
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10-07-2009, 12:45 AM #3
Re: First Impressions
This actually sounds right along the lines of what I was hoping for. I don't generally have the patience for ArmA after a long day at work and I'm also too tired to be some twitchy 12 year old in COD/BF2.


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10-07-2009, 01:06 AM #4
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Re: First Impressions
The Coop campaign is a ton of fun. I just ran the first 2 mission with my clan mates and it worked like charm. There was almost no lag even with my lousy upload speed. I ran a 4 man earlier using the VOIP option and it also didn't create any lag at all.


The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.
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10-07-2009, 01:16 AM #5
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10-07-2009, 01:43 AM #6
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Re: First Impressions
I just played the first two missions of a co-op campaign in hardcore mode with some strangers. One guy was either an idiot or was just getting familiar with the controls...we ended up having to execute him at the end of the first mission. he was replaced by AI in the 2nd mission because he disconnected.
In the first mission, i had a marksman SCAR (or whatever its called in the game). We took up a position behind some rocks, myself taking a spot in a shed. We Picked off the enemy at a distance of about 150m, taking inaccurate fire (the enemy seemed startled and caught in a poor fighting position). We then took the hill and secured it. One of the guys in the fireteam opened fire down the hill toward a small village or group of small buildings. there were several enemy contacts. the AI fireteam then opened fire and the enemies concentrated their fire on the AI team. We eventually killed the enemies after a lengthy 2 minute firefight. As the rest of my team moved into the village, I remembered that we were tasked with taking out the radar emplacement so I planted a C4 charge on the radar unit and destroyed it.
I won't go any further out of fear of possible spoilers. I don't know how different the AI is from session to session because i've only played one session.
I'll just say that during this initial contact with the enemy on the island, we had caught them off-guard and had the element of surprise on our side. Later on, we encountered a much more alert enemy and had a MUCH more difficult time.
This game is effing awesome and I really can't wait to play with some TG guys.
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10-07-2009, 01:46 AM #7
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Re: First Impressions
Your probably right, if we can figure out how to up the player limit past 4 I think it'll have some life to it.
The tvt sketchy. I was on an annihilation server and it was running smooth with 32players so me was on a really nice connection apparently. Then the next server was infiltration with 10 people and it was laggy as all get out. I like the way infil played, I ended up in the SL spot and you can direct the different fire teams to wherever you want them to be which was nice. This might not be bad 4v4 actually if you have a human in charge of each ai squad. Not ideal but it might work. Annihilation I didn't really care for. It just didn't feel right and it seems like it is way harder to kill people in tvt than in coop, Way more than it should take.

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.
Samuel Adams
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10-07-2009, 07:57 AM #8
Re: First Impressions
Just waiting for Gamestop to open up 8)
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"To show you what a difference retirement makes. Last year when I gave an order, 541,000 men and women jumped," he explained. "Now I can't even get the plumber to come over."
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10-07-2009, 09:18 AM #9


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Re: First Impressions
Should have bought a download version, haven't even got a shipping notice yet. I'll be all over them today like white on rice.
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