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    Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?



    When I reduce the file size of my avatar to 100x100 it ends up less sharp -- more blurry looking (see my [TG-UN] avatar above).

    Below is the original image. Any suggestions on how to render it as a sharper looking avatar image?



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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Well, the text is pixelated pretty badly to begin with. You could try a bicubic sharper image size reduction in photoshop, but its not going to help a whole lot.

    The big problem is that the text at the bottom is simply too small to reduce well. There are certain limitations for text size that wont allow it to reduce without massive pixelation,even if you do it at a ridiculously high DPI.

    My best suggestion would be to bump the DPI up to 300 DPI on the original file (keeping the same simensions, which means you're going to be resampling the image rather than just resizing the DPI), remove your CO line from the bottom, move the TG-UN to it's place, increase the font size and then reducing it to 100x100. However, you're still going to get some pixelation. Just the name of the game.

    Here, worked something up for you. Proper font sizing and some creative effects and shadowing significantly reduce pixelation while retaining your original idea.
    Last edited by Ferris Bueller; 02-08-2011 at 01:39 PM.

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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    jpg compression by my eyes.

    I ALWAYS, ALWAYS use .png. It's a superior format.
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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Ferris has a good starting suggestion of resampling to 300 DPI then reduce resolution, then resample back to 72 or 100 dpi (since it's going to be a web image). It'll help some, but I would still look for a better font. A lot of these serif fonts were never meant for small text and thus most people end up using a sans serif for smaller text due to their curves and easier pixel approximation vs. sharp lines and angles.

    As for the compression, it really doesn't affect the pixelation in this case unless he were to to severely reduce image quality to below 50%. That's when compressed vs. uncompressed changes things a bit.
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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Thank you for all the suggestions, and special thanks to Ferris for the new improved avatar!

    Check out the new sig file and slogan below.

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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    It works, but the text itself is still very pixelated and rough looking. I can try to make you one with better quality if you want. One of the main problems is probably that you are using it as a signature picture, rather then simply copying the [img][/img] tags from whatever site you uploaded it to. If you only put it as a signature image then it will not be as sharp.

    EDIT - Try this:




    Put this in your signature:
    [IMG]http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg45/Darth_Napoleon/tg-un.jpg[/IMG]
    Last edited by MacLeod; 02-09-2011 at 05:17 PM.



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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Quote Originally Posted by MacLeod View Post
    It works, but the text itself is still very pixelated and rough looking. I can try to make you one with better quality if you want. One of the main problems is probably that you are using it as a signature picture, rather then simply copying the [img][/img] tags from whatever site you uploaded it to. If you only put it as a signature image then it will not be as sharp.

    EDIT - Try this:




    Put this in your signature:
    [IMG]http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg45/Darth_Napoleon/tg-un.jpg[/IMG]
    Will do. Could I trouble you for the same again as above, but with RED shadowing on the main text
    TG United Nations
    and without the squiggly bits you added on the left side?

    And you are right -- looks better without a period at the end of OUT OF MANY, ONE

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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Here, I managed to get rid of the squigly thing on the left side, I must have thrown it in there when I meant to use another brush. At first I changed the drop shadow to red but the colors seemed to clash to me so I changed it back to black, but if you still want it red I can change it again.




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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Some basic color theory for web media. http://www.colorsontheweb.com/colorcontrasts.asp

    It's not that your image isn't sharp enough. The fuzziness is due to the red shadowing on blue background.

    Your choice of a stencil font also contributes to blurriness. The text size at the bottom of the avatar is no smaller than the forum user info text right under it. It's just too small for that type of font.

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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Quote Originally Posted by sordavie View Post
    Some basic color theory for web media. http://www.colorsontheweb.com/colorcontrasts.asp

    It's not that your image isn't sharp enough. The fuzziness is due to the red shadowing on blue background.

    Your choice of a stencil font also contributes to blurriness. The text size at the bottom of the avatar is no smaller than the forum user info text right under it. It's just too small for that type of font.
    Thanks Sordavie. Over the past ten years of teaching advertising techniques and design to university students I frequently remind my students of the basic of colour theory, design rules, and the strategies of rule breaking in design.

    I am going for a slightly blurry look and it will not degrade the readablity of signature image. I need to see both options before deciding (another basic design process...).

    As to the readability of the text in the avatar, as it is reinforced by my name above it, and the signature below it, a little ambiguity here is tolerable. I do think the positioning of the text in the avatar could be shift upwards a bit, as it is a tad heavy on the bottom, but I am not about to trouble MacLeod with minor details -- his work is wonderful and I am most grateful.
    Last edited by E-Male; 02-10-2011 at 08:38 PM.

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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Emale, a real shame to see you shake of that 1stMIP logo, not many of us around these part any more, but congrats on the new IHS!

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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepo_SAS View Post
    Emale, a real shame to see you shake of that 1stMIP logo, not many of us around these part any more, but congrats on the new IHS!
    I will preserve the old 1st-MIP logo in a special place -- it means much to me. Very few people outside of the 1st-MIP really understand the meaning of teamwork or have experienced its full realization.

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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Quote Originally Posted by E-Male View Post
    I Very few people outside of the 1st-MIP really understand the meaning of teamwork or have experienced its full realization.
    That's a nice underhanded insult to everyone at TG.

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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    Quote Originally Posted by sordavie View Post
    That's a nice underhanded insult to everyone at TG.
    And he takes the bait.

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    Re: Reducing Pixalation in a TG Avatar?

    If that was bait, it was pretty effing good bait emale. When I read that, I had the same thought as he did coupled with "did he really just say that in public?" If you meant it to be facetious or sarcastic, you kinda have to tag it with [sarcasm][/sarcasm] or something because it doesnt come across well otherwise.

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