Re: Do you want to play this game?

**leejo** · 03-08-2005, 10:55 AM

The addition of a commander mode will only help if someone steps up/is selected to be commander and people pay attention to his or her commands. In JO, e.g., there are some features to support command and control but no-one ever uses them.

Anyway, we'll see with BF2. I predict mindless eye candy.

**asch** · 03-08-2005, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Pokerface

I'm still trying to work out the fascination with BF1942. Every time I've played, disorganization seemed to reign due to relatively banal objectives coupled with a map so large that one hand wouldn't know what the other was doing. Toss in 32 players to a side (!) and I can't see the problems getting any better.

It's a pretty game, but BF in general hasn't impressed me in the least. Maybe the addition of a commander mode will help BF2.

Take just about any game on a public server and you will have deathmatch. It will take a strong presence by TG and strong admins to make the server anything but.

BF2 will provide the commander role... squad leaders... and adjust the size of the maps based on the number of players.

**asch** · 03-08-2005, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by leejo

The addition of a commander mode will only help if someone steps up/is selected to be commander and people pay attention to his or her commands. In JO, e.g., there are some features to support command and control but no-one ever uses them.

If the commander role is enabled on the server, I believe it will be vital to have it filled. The commander is responsible for dispersing ammo, artillery strikes, etc. I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but there was a list of the commander abilities.

**CingularDuality** · 03-08-2005, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Pokerface

I'm still trying to work out the fascination with BF1942.

I've tried to figure out the same thing, for different reasons, with CounterStrike and multiple other games if you're not playing at TG...

It's all about the players you're with...

**Apophis** · 03-08-2005, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Pokerface

I'm still trying to work out the fascination with BF1942. Every time I've played, disorganization seemed to reign due to relatively banal objectives coupled with a map so large that one hand wouldn't know what the other was doing. Toss in 32 players to a side (!) and I can't see the problems getting any better.

It's a pretty game, but BF in general hasn't impressed me in the least. Maybe the addition of a commander mode will help BF2.

Fortunately, this is the type of game that Tactical Gamer has been able to do really well with. Proper chain of command, standard operating procedures and communication overcomes an awful lot.

If you think the maps in BF are large, you should see OFP or Joint Operations. They make the maps in BF seem tiny.

**_Ender_** · 03-08-2005, 03:17 PM

If you cant play it on TG, then it just isnt worth playing at all.

I know how iroic that sounds, since the game I'm currently playing isnt being hosted on TG.. but you're just gonna have to figure that out for youselves.

**Apophis** · 03-08-2005, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by CingularDuality

I've tried to figure out the same thing, for different reasons, with CounterStrike and multiple other games if you're not playing at TG...

It's all about the players you're with...

Well put.. I like games that allow for more diversity in tactics and strategy through the use of the larger maps. Games like NS and CS are so confined and restricted. Defense of an objective is usually watching a couple doors or elevators in the smaller games and usually only consist of a guy standing there with a gun. Games like BF and JO require a lot more teamwork and coordination as you need to be prepared for infantry, air, mechanized or naval assaults and be prepared to deal with them all.

**Tempus** · 03-08-2005, 03:37 PM

I was surprised by the lack of support DC received here from the NS crowd. There was a lot of teamwork possibility in it, and I suppose that bf2 is only going to enhance that.

**DudeMan** · 03-08-2005, 05:35 PM

TO BE HONEST ALL THOSE PICS JUST LOOK LIKE DC FINAL.... yeah im probably getting it... but i have a feeling the bf vietnam flight models are going to crappy this game up...

**Pokerface** · 03-08-2005, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Tempus

I was surprised by the lack of support DC received here from the NS crowd. There was a lot of teamwork possibility in it, and I suppose that bf2 is only going to enhance that.

Heh... we're cheap bastards, Tempus, don't forget that. We play a game that almost everyone and their mom has, and use a free mod for it.

**CingularDuality** · 03-09-2005, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by DudeMan

TO BE HONEST ALL THOSE PICS JUST LOOK LIKE DC FINAL.... yeah im probably getting it... but i have a feeling the bf vietnam flight models are going to crappy this game up...

Well, Desert Combat never came close to looking that good, but it's the changes to the actual game that I'm looking forward to. I'm hoping that the new strategic commander's position will attract some of the NS players. I'd really like to see more overlap between the different sub-communities here, and this looks like the game to do it.

**CaveDog** · 03-09-2005, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Well, Desert Combat never came close to looking that good, but it's the changes to the actual game that I'm looking forward to. I'm hoping that the new strategic commander's position will attract some of the NS players. I'd really like to see more overlap between the different sub-communities here, and this looks like the game to do it.

Yeah, except I have a 3 year old computer and I bought hl in 1999. Need I say more?

The man did mention something about being cheap bastards....

**CingularDuality** · 03-09-2005, 03:32 PM

OK, I won't spam every single BF2 thread this time, but here's the trailer that was shown at BFCon in that larger video: http://media.pc.ign.com/media/677/677882/vids_1.html

**DudeMan** · 03-09-2005, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by CingularDuality

OK, I won't spam every single BF2 thread this time, but here's the trailer that was shown at BFCon in that larger video: http://media.pc.ign.com/media/677/677882/vids_1.html

yeah but those pics are hardly screenshots... they look enhanced some of them... if not cool, but i think they are...

and more than anything i am just worried about the vehicles... vietnam really screwed it all up.... and i dont know whether to think "good tha means they will have learnt" or "well they just cant get it right"....

**CingularDuality** · 03-10-2005, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by DudeMan

yeah but those pics are hardly screenshots... they look enhanced some of them... if not cool, but i think they are...

They're supposedly in-game screenshots. Have you watched the latest video? It's in-game video cap, and it looks fantastic!

and more than anything i am just worried about the vehicles... vietnam really screwed it all up.... and i dont know whether to think "good tha means they will have learnt" or "well they just cant get it right"....

I sure hope it means they've learned their lesson... BF:V was crap.

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