Yea, I just consider myself a competitive gamer. I play a game within the rules allowed by the designer, whether explilcity or implicity as sarc's theory of emergence puts it. I do everything in my power to win with the weapons allowed. Fair play is extremely important to me. If the other team cannot do what I just did, then I won't do it again. I despise cheating and I don't even do it in singleplayer games.

I play on the TG server because:
1. you get high quality players: meaning many people that play here are just damn good at the game. Fun for me, more challenging.

2. MATURE GAMERS

3. MATURE GAMERS

4. TG uses the teamwork and communication aspects of the game the way they were intended. You can't get this on any other public server... that I know of.

I DO NOT play on TG because:

1. I need a place to play that doesn't allow bunny hopping: I just don't care... I can do it too, and I don't think its hard to hit people that are bunny hopping.

2. I don't like getting attacked when I spawn: Nice shot man...

3. Any of the other non built-in-to-the-game rule abstractions that TG enforces.

A few things:
-I understand why you have these rules. It's not "fun" to spawn and die on the carrier. I take it as part of the game and, in this situation, the other team got the drop on me. But on the same token, its also not "fun" to fly a jet if dark viper is flying on the other team. It actually ruins the entire flying experience for me. I'm dying constantly and frustrated that I can't help my team. He's a better pilot, he kills me in the sky and I can't kill him. oh well.

Of course you wouldn't make a rule against him flying. Thats kind of how I look at your "fun" rules. Ok so its not fun for the guy on the carrier that got sniped by the enemy on the other side of the carrier. Do you see what I'm getting at here? You can't make game restricting rules based off of someone not being able to have fun. In a competitive videogame, dying, and dying alot... are just part of the game. The fun I get is from being competitive within the artificial universe.

And when I say you can't, obviously you can... but this is just my own opinion on the matter.

What I have accepted and actually admire. Is that you were able to get a large group of gamers together that agree on what is considered a cheese tactic, and what is legitimate play. Sure, I guess flying a jet to a CP, bailing, and having my squad spawn on me is cheesy, but cheesy compared to what? compared to real life? Why are we comparing a videogame to real life anyway?


That being said. I've had a fun time with this thread and hope I haven't offended anyone. I realize I sound like i'm arguing strongly for these points, but in reality I just wanted a good debate/discussion with fellow gamers on this forum, which is what internet forums are for. I'm certainly not picking any fights nor going to do/use any tactic or maneuver considered cheese by the community. If it were my server, I would do things differently, thats obvious. But I respect that fact that its not, and will adhere to and follow the play style encouraged on the server. I also have a large amount of respect for the themes of fairplay and respect for your fellow gamer that TG exudes.

and hey, I have fun playing with you guys. Whether its leading my infamous BHACK squad or coordinating attacks with my gunner in the attack helo... this community has allowed me to have several memorable bf2 moments that otherwise wouldn't have happened on a normal pub, thanks for the good times.