Complete civilian ROE revamp:

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...oe-revamp.html

Originally Posted by McLuv

Well, I can't exactly say civilian ROE changes haven't been suggested before, but I would like to start by saying that though I've alluded to this suggestion in previous related threads, there has never been any discussion or much response in relationship to them. Add to that the fact that using the search function has not revealed any matches, I'll begin.

The civilian/collaborator class has been an extreme in PR for a few builds. Going from the extremely notable cannon fodder of 0.75 to the extremely rare and punishing kit of 0.8-0.86. So, I'd like to suggest completely revamping the ROEs to a playable middle ground where the civilian is played properly, if played at all.

My ROE would be as follows:


1. Civilians will never be allowed to be shot. Shooting a civilian will never be allowable within the ROEs of the coalition, under any circumstance (IE, no slugshots, either).
2. Coalition will receive an updated punishment system, including:

• Every time they kill a civilian, their name is displayed in the top left in a similar fashion to the "Player_name destroyed his own cache and is a traitor"
• Any civilian kill ups your respawn by 60 seconds.
• Your second consecutive civilian kill within a life leads to a court martial (with the added spawn time of both kills)
• After the third kill in a game, player's score is reset (like in 0.85), and another court martial.

3. If a civilian is killed within 3 meters of any insurgent, then the civilian will be punished with an extra 120 seconds.
4. Civilians are no longer able to be arrested on a whim. The only time an arrest will be allowable is within 180 seconds of:

• Pulling out their rocks/cellphone.
• Being within 10 meters of an insurgent
• Being within 10 meters of a weapons cache.

5. Civilians arrested "legally" will receive another 60 seconds on their respawn.
6. Coalition troops will loose one intelligence point for false arrests, but will only be punished with an extra 30 seconds to their spawn time.
7. Civilian normal respawn time will be reduced to 30 seconds.



That's pretty much it. Now, to back it up before people start denouncing the entire suggestion over iddy-biddy points. Most of it can be tweaked, but overall it should stay the same. Anyways, here's my explanation for each point:

#1: Pretty much summed up, shooting any unarmed civilian is never justified, and should never go unpunished.
#2: Slightly more direct punishments than previously, including the text message. The first kill's punishment is relatively light and not too apparent, but it's a slightly more lenient punishment.
#3: Duh, no more human shield problems. No, you'll still be punished for shoting them, but they'll be punished a whole lot more.
#4: Civilians are never a direct threat to you, but if it is perceived that they are doing suspicious activities or may indirectly be a threat to you (rocks/cellphones), then you'll have the opportunity to catch them and arrest them.
#5: Punishment for being caught on the civilian's part, meaning they'll no longer be giving free intel like supposedly in 0.75.
#6: Not really severe, in all honesty, but this represents the Coalition loosing civilian trust, as well as being reprimanded for doing so.
#7: Without the problems of human shields being formed subsiding due to my previous points, civilians no longer need to be punished for using the kit.

Please post your comments/feedback of this, and remember that this is just a rough outline and any point can be changed if it's seen as beneficial to the overall suggestion, but I believe this will be a huge improvement in gameplay already..

One ticket per unarmed civilian shot by Bluefor I think would also be a good addition, but what the devs have decided on here is good.