Re: Disturbing Trend (LAT/HAT/TOW/AA)

**squadexodus** · 03-24-2008, 10:39 PM

So, if i were half covered by a tree, and 2 of my squad mates were in the open, and we got taken out, would that be proper?

Delta*RandyShugart* · 03-25-2008, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by kittykatnub

Yeah, the thing is though that when I was killed by the LAT it hit me directly, not a wall, but the ground under my feet and it was around medium range, if I was behind cover I wouldn't have been so annoyed by that action.

best thing to do is to take a SS and maybe the persons name will pop up or go through the battle-recorder and take notes of where it occurred and PM an admin who will then check it and confirm.....then the person doing it will be punished.

I have on occasion done this mostly when i get the be-jesus scared out of me and it goes off... it happens, and as it stats in the tips on the PR loading screen make sure all squad mates keep spaces in between because if not a grenade or L-aT can easily take out a whole squad.

**BigGaayAl** · 03-25-2008, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by Soupy_Norman

And weve all had to kill inf with a dead on hit one time or another, by accident reflex.

No, reason: don't run with the freaking rocket out.

**snooggums** · 03-25-2008, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Elwenil

Hmm, I wonder if the solution wouldn't be to only give L-AT and H-AT kits two rounds and then not allow them to rearm from anywhere but the main. Or is that even possible? It would certainly cut down on a lot of the foolishness.

Then they would be useless on any large map because players would either be too afraid to fire in fear of missing, or their shots would not finish off heavy armor and be useless since the armor can repair. This would only work if vehicles could only be repaired at main, rifles and grenades could only be refilled at main, etc.

With the changes to the AT kits that the PR team has made, I'm all for dropping the LAT/HAT ban altogether to see how that goes.

**squadexodus** · 03-25-2008, 12:35 PM

Seeing as im getting hit by rockets more now that ever, i dont think that would be a good idea just yet. Im not saying we shouldnt later on, but just not now...

**Elwenil** · 03-25-2008, 12:39 PM

Regardless of any changes to the PR mod, it is still very unrealistic to randomly launch H-AT and (at least for NATO forces) L-AT at infantry.

Delta*RandyShugart* · 03-25-2008, 01:14 PM

if someone were to really take the time to stand up, wait for the H-aT to target and to sync for firing and in that allocated time fire on troops, then wow......that person should not be given the right to use the H-aT kit......now if they fire on a vehicle and troops are standing by it, then its legal because those troops are in the way...but the amount of time it takes to get the H-aT kit in sync and firing is more realistic and also show's that it is only for armor/vehicles, and bunkers......etc...

RPG's i can see being different, since the insurgents really don't live by an rules morally in RL and in within PR, and since they don't get the normal H-AT kit (then again TG doesn't have any insurgency maps right now), and the militia HAT Kit, in a sense is really just an RPG with one extra shot, and to waste it on a soldier is pointless unless you are spooked and or just fire the rockets knowing that you are going to be killed soon and don't want to give them any extra ammo or a kit with ammo...thats what i do as a last resort i waste the ammo, if i know for sure i'm going to be killed.

**Outlawz7** · 03-31-2008, 10:42 AM

Best thing to do would be to forbid both L-AT and H-AT vs. infantry in the open. (with Insurgents as the exception)

I don't care if they use RPGs and Javelins in real life; they do that to save themselves, since every soldier lives only once, but what we are playing is a game, where we magically come back after dying. Further more, L-AT got a scoped rifle so it can engage the enemy like every other rifleman and H-AT got a rifle, so you have no excuse to use a rocket on a single soldier, since the pistol would give you away/wouldn't do crap to the target.

Running around with RPG/AT4 out and shooting random enemy infantry makes it look like Quake III Arena, where soldiers bunny hop around shooting rocket launchers at each other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGxZn...eature=related

If you stand next to a bunker in the open and suddenly an AT blows everything to pieces, it's your fault for standing there and fault of whoever placed the thing in such a ridiculus spot. If it hits a tank/APC and kills you standing to it, you had it coming. Why stand next to something, which is a magnet for enemy missiles anyway?

**uk-warrior** · 03-31-2008, 02:44 PM

I would just like to mention this problem DID NOT accure in the last scrim, is that not telling us something, that maybe it's people from public server, who really have not read the TG way of doing things.

Delta*RandyShugart* · 03-31-2008, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by uk-warrior

I would just like to mention this problem DID NOT occur in the last scrim, is that not telling us something, that maybe it's people from public server, who really have not read the TG way of doing things.

well said uk-warrior....well said!!! rep+

I am going to love to see how defensive some people get in their replies now.

*sits back in a reclining chair with hands folded behind own head*

**Belhade** · 03-31-2008, 06:13 PM

Except...that it still is an issue with password night, where it is stated that you must know and obey the rules to use the password.

I wonder if some in-depth searching will reveal our passwords on other community forums? Or would people just be passing them through XFire?

Delta*RandyShugart* · 03-31-2008, 06:37 PM

i think xfire is the main culprit......even yesterday i was on a pub server that was playing zatar, and found myself commanding and talking with a SL, and I said i was going to play on the TG pw night server, this player said, "is it still locked?" and i said, yes its password protected but you can find it easily be registering on TG and locating the password, i hope he took the time and did it......

Its to bad that there are the few who take the TG honor code, Rules, Regs and SOPs for granted.....

**imnotacanadian** · 03-31-2008, 06:38 PM

Even if this isn't the case...it's very easy to bypass all of the required reading material to find the password....

Delta*RandyShugart* · 03-31-2008, 06:41 PM

but at least the person takes the time to do it, its those who just pass it along, and those who request it to be passed that ticks me off....if they can't waste less than 5mins finding the PW or registering, then they will waste a HAT round on Infantry.

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 03-31-2008, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by imnotacanadian

Even if this isn't the case...it's very easy to bypass all of the required reading material to find the password....

This will be changing soon....

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