Re: I thought TG was about Team Leadership.

**uk-warrior** · 03-25-2008, 03:32 PM

I'd be up for that too, never tried my hand at commanding yet.

Count me in.

**LoveSkylark** · 03-25-2008, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ferris Bueller

1.) STOP WHINING AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
2.) STEP UP AND LEAD.
3.)THE ADMINS ARE NOT YOUR CRUTCH.
4.)I REPEAT: STOP WHINING.

Well for me I actually want people to whine a little bit on this forum, for one it lessen the whine on the game server.

It also rids us of allot of un-wanted players that are too immature to handle the replies they receive.

A lot of the whining is also happening because of misunderstanding and people not seeing thing from the same point of view and a little rant on this forum can ease a lot of unnecessary hostility.

I haven’t been in this community that long but I’m already seeing how the same posts (complaints) keep resurfacing when new players join the community and know how annoying it is to see them again and again.

To me this is a necessary evil that needs to happen and I totally understand how much it can get on the nerves of the longtime users and specially the admins who also have to handle all the official whine and just want to come in here to chat and relax. I see no reason to show somebody any mercy on the other hand if he whines, either he should leave or matures as a TG member.

To ukwarrior:

When I first joined the TG community I felt they were perfect the server had: good teamwork and VOIP, infantry tactics, etc.. But off course when I started playing regularly I soon found out they are not perfect, there are always days that: the teamwork is bad, nobody wants to be a commander, teams are uneven etc…

Never judge the game until you start around from the beginning because nobody is thinking about open squads, even teams etc in the middle of the game they are too busy playing.

TG is simply the best tactical game community there is out there and its openness (is that a word?) to new player will always cause some of the player base to be immature but those players never last.

Just start slow, when you play a good game remember the names of your suadies and the CO etc. and slowly build up a database of friends you like playing with. I often have my browser on website that shows what players are on the server when I’m browsing the net and if there are a lot of good guys on I drop what I’m doing to play.

Delta*RandyShugart* · 03-25-2008, 06:00 PM

uk-warrior you did an excellent job SLing last night on Al Kufrah, you took the initiative and stepped up, i learned almost everything from disposable, hes a real good teacher, plus i enjoyed being a Squad member in your squad, next time im on the server ill look up your squad and join in and also feel free to join mine anytime.

**HellHound1812** · 03-25-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by kilroy0097

I started in January and there are very few squads that refused my request for invite specifically for elitist or snobish reasons. Well TF21 did but they have some kind of star chart crossed with a ley lines full moon thing going on. You have to catch them in a special giving mood when all the constellations are aligned in the right form. I think they sacrifice small children in exchange for their skills. I'm joking of course and giving them hell.. someone has to!

I lol'd, not going to lie. TF21 Locks our squad because we are comfortable in our element and we've worked with each other enough to know that we can trust the person next to us (except Rico). With unknown players, it adds levels of complication that we prefer to avoid. If you want to roll with TF21, go to our forums and make a post or hop into our teamspeak. We'll be more than willing to shoot you an invite, but you have to make the initiative online or in teamspeak.

I think someone (not me, I suck at leading) should volunteer to make a "NOOB only" Squad in game, so that people who are new to the game will be able to get a helping hand. Just have 1 patient Veteran leading the squad, and his loyal flock to follow him. I think it would further improve TG's, and PR's image as a whole if we made those steps. Just don't ask me.

**imnotacanadian** · 03-26-2008, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Masterjack

Ya that sounds like a good idea. I'm ok at commanding but sure would like to be able to do it better. I have the basics down, I just need to know how to place stuff better. Like droping wire so that you have no gaps for enemy to go through. I'm sure their is more to know.

Search for the "Razor Wire Tutorial" Charity Case made.

Actually...I'll be nice and do it for you

http://www.wegame.com/watch/Project_...wire_tutorial/

**StevieRay** · 03-28-2008, 09:51 AM

I have been saying something like this for a year now. If some of the PR vets would organize an evening (I understand RL gets in the way) where SL's were selected for the night for each team. 5 volunteer SL, for the evening, per side, all vets, that would work hard at the TG gaming strategies in game with the pubbies/TG that fill up the squads. I learned everything from all of you and an organized event (not PW and not scrim) would probably show the community that we are dedicated to our message. Also it would give coordination to a night among all SL's that volunteered, and allow newer SL's to work with some veteran SL's. Sounds fun to me. Not a scrim but an organized night other than the PW.

This might help out the current PR situation a bit...thoughts?

And PS, can't the private server be used more? I have asked to use it and never heard back...is it off limits for now?

**TMan** · 03-28-2008, 06:37 PM

UK, You can be in my OPEN squad anytime!!!

**McGann** · 03-29-2008, 11:17 PM

Sometimes being a CO is like playing C & C but, the units don't always move were you want them to. But, when they do it's an awesome feeling.

**Charity Case** · 03-31-2008, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by McGann

Sometimes being a CO is like playing C & C but, the units don't always move were you want them to.

It's not you; the pathing is all FUBAR.

**imnotacanadian** · 03-31-2008, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by McGann

Sometimes being a CO is like playing C & C but, the units don't always move were you want them to. But, when they do it's an awesome feeling.

Thats how I see the CO chair. It goes from a first person tactical shooter and transforms itself into a real time online strategy game.

**Pistolfied** · 04-01-2008, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by McGann

Sometimes being a CO is like playing C & C but, the units always go where you want them to about 5 hours after you wanted them to. But, when they go where you want them to immediately it's an awesome feeling.

Corrected you :P

**Bisclaveret** · 04-01-2008, 02:21 AM

My problem is that I don't ever feel comfortable in either position, because of inexperience (never commed in any BF game except for a few times when i needed to take over for someone for a few minutes, mostly the same for SL) and the want to avoiddoing things i'm generally bad at and focus at the areas I'm most effective.

I'm EXTREMELY bad at most RTS games because of the rapidly changing battlefield and my inability to split my focus between multiple fronts simultaneously. However, I'm good at planning tactics on a static map and manouvering (my background is tactical turn-based strategy). In my humble opinion, this makes me a liability if i'm ever in the commander or SL hotseat in a TG game, however, gunning APCs with a competant, communicative driver? (or vice versa, I'm learning that) good times.

Likewise, I'm not much of a twitch gamer, but I'm good at specialized tasks like AA, etc. So I try to stay out the frontlines and focus on defense, engineerwork, and medicing. Most especially medicing...

Delta*RandyShugart* · 04-01-2008, 02:00 PM

Kudos to my squad last night on the USMC team on kashan, thanks for putting up with me.

At times it was so chaotic, and I know i didn't SL to the best of my ability, and to cataphract who really stepped up and took the reigns of commanding when the previous one who was doing a great job got disconnected and couldn't reconnect.

It was chaotic, but it was fun and all together each squad pulled together towards the second half and was able to hold both north and south bunker and retake south village...

Bis, my advice is to step up and try it out...watch charity cases videos, they really are helpful and when in doubt ask for advice, and squad up with me anytime i would more be more than happy to let you SL and I will answer any questions you have.

From what i learned last night, PR at times is very fast moving, and you almost have to take a step back, take observations etc. I know for a fact i had guys running around and around when i should have just had them stop and stay where they were...What I originally wanted as a 2-3 man mobile AA squad turned into a 6 man squad that took and held north bunker then took mec outpost and ended up using tanks and apc's and humvees along with HAT and lasing targets, the squad name was misleading, but as we all now sometimes the best laid plans don't go the way we want them to be.

Bis, just remember PR is a FPS, and you don't have to worry about people switching from pistols to sniper rifles, the beauty is that counter-strike has nothing on PR, and thats a fact!!

Zoors · 04-07-2008, 03:04 AM

Guys... Just one thing b4 I go.

Nietzsche and Teamwork, does not go well together.
There are elite, and there are ordinaries. Then there are the wannabe elite and they allways lick upwards and bash downwards.

You gotta have teamwork on TG. Its the very reason for suppporting this thing.

Calling my self TG-elite, TG-superior, TG-the best, TG-irr or whatefver does not mean I always lock my squad, it means Im a hell of a squadleader and are willing to teach out, and be a forerole to others. It means I can be an elite without having a licking fanclub.

There is actually no reason to lock any squad.

Take an example. I went in to Fools Road today, and found 5 6-man squads, one commander and one locked squad. Fine. I created a Sabotage squad, took a car all the way from Brit main, up to Militia main, crapped out some ammo from the Rover, hooked my way in their base and created some destruction. B4 I knew it, my squad was full of people, and the commander shouted that he needed defence on warehouse. Fine! I had my fun, but now I had responsibility for 5 new guys, and happily followed CO order and we had a great game down at warehouse. No big deal. No locks. Doing the right thing.

**Superfast** · 04-07-2008, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Zoors

Guys... Just one thing b4 I go.

Nietzsche and Teamwork, does not go well together.
There are elite, and there are ordinaries. Then there are the wannabe elite and they allways lick upwards and bash downwards.

You gotta have teamwork on TG. Its the very reason for suppporting this thing.

Calling my self TG-elite, TG-superior, TG-the best, TG-irr or whatefver does not mean I always lock my squad, it means Im a hell of a squadleader and are willing to teach out, and be a forerole to others. It means I can be an elite without having a licking fanclub.

There is actually no reason to lock any squad.

Take an example. I went in to Fools Road today, and found 5 6-man squads, one commander and one locked squad. Fine. I created a Sabotage squad, took a car all the way from Brit main, up to Militia main, crapped out some ammo from the Rover, hooked my way in their base and created some destruction. B4 I knew it, my squad was full of people, and the commander shouted that he needed defence on warehouse. Fine! I had my fun, but now I had responsibility for 5 new guys, and happily followed CO order and we had a great game down at warehouse. No big deal. No locks. Doing the right thing.

The la´test experience this session at the chinese town, the new 16 map, was a opposite anticlimax. Being kicked by a well known TH admin because I defend real Tactical Gamer style teamplay.

See: http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...dmin-cola.html

More people should think more. Thats my 2 cents for this community.

Zoors dude, have a talk with the admin who kicked you and why. If he made a mistake he'll admit it i know. There are always lots of misunderstandings in these matters, best thing is to keep calm and try to get it straightened out with the admins.

What you post is all true, but sometimes the admins aren't around or not watching the right spots and these things get missed or misunderstood. The admins do their best to police the server, but they aren't everywhere and only humans.

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