This is a good thread I think to get a discussion going about the rules. Something a bit off topic but I think needs to be addressed ASAP is the way TG has been handling the public display of PR rules on these forums.

Lets face it - TG does not play Vanilla BF2 anymore and hasnt for quite some time. So why is there one global set of rules that enforces for VBF2/PR/POE2, when all 3 are almost completely different games and each of them demand their own unique rules? Of course the basics of the TG "charter" applies to all games TG plays, but the problem is that the 'standard' ruleset created for vbf2 has not been updated for all the complexities that PR has added, and its really confusing to read all the different types of rules, some of which contradict and no clear directive of which to follow.

My suggestion - get rid of the vanilla bf2 "standard operating procedures" and "rules" section and put all relevant information into the POE2 and PR forums, cause thats where people are gonna look when trying to find that stuff.

You know if I wasnt pointed to the rules section on these forums by an admin, I would have NEVER found all those little outdated threads. Im sure a large majority of regulars who play on the PR TG server have NEVER even seen the rules/SOPs posted, and dont intend to read them because they dont seem relevant to PR, are not updated and only speak about vbf2 gameplay mechanics, which most PR players dont even care for.... Reading through these old rules is also a real pain cause alot of the information is based around the gameplay mechanics of vanilla BF2, which just flat out dont fit with PR. So its not only confusing, but it doesnt give the whole story for PR rules.

So to sum up I think - split the rules and drop the vanilla BF2 rule section cause TG doesnt run a vanilla BF2 server anymore.

Then create ONE thread (not a bunch of small ones) and get all the relevant information into an easy to read Server Rules and Guidelines. And make sure you keep it up to date with the latest info.



Anyways, on the topic - You need to define "UCB" and "Main Base" in the rules. Every Uncaptureable Base in PR is in a dome of death, meaning no rules need be applied cause you will die if you try to go there anyways. Exception being Al Basrah Airport, which is intentional by the map designer, cause although it cannot be capped, suicide attacks are a fact of live in RL al basrah and the mapper wanted to reflect that in the map and keep the players on their toes.

So:
Uncaptureable Base - A base that cannot be captured from the enemy and has a dome of death applied, which means you will die shortly after entering.

Main Base - The last base in the capture order, contains fixed spawnpoints for your team and all your teams heavy assets.

I think the rule "you cannot attack a Main Base until its in the capture order" is a good rule, the sabotage rule is stupid, you can do plenty of sabotage elsewhere you dont need to go inside the mainbase, that is a waste of resources IMO, ESPECIALLY because according to that rule you cannot destroy vehicles which would be the main purpose. Like CC said the command post is not even a big target, is easily replaceable, and often is not even deployed in the main base to begin with! Sabotage squads would be far better off targetting enemy bunkers and firebases or mining key roads/bridges, instead of just tard rushing the mains in hope to catch a commander off guard...

As for Anti Tank weapons, that is a much harder choice but I definitely agree with Light AT being used for ANYTHING you see fit. You only have 5 on a whole team, and only 1 avaliable per squad. That means if you waste the shot on an infantry, like DH says murphys law usually has a way of repaying the favor with a vehicle riding up on your whole squads position and your squad leader screaming "FFS WHERE IS MY AT MAN!?!?"

HAT is a whole nother monster, I think giving him a rifle was a good choice but it remains to be seen if its still a kit that cna be exploited to hell. I think its too powerful now and the tracking timer needs to be bumped up again like v0.7, especially now that the warning lights are gone.