Originally Posted by Sonic

Hey, 47 best of luck in the map making. But, I'm going to be honest here.

I think we've all seen what happens on a pubbie round of Quinling, now when I saw the proposed vehicles, it kind of reminded me alot of vanilla. Hey, it might work out. But, from what I read there will be:

4 Jets
2 Gunships
4 Transport Helos
8 Tanks
10 Armoured APCs and Vehicles

That's 28 assets that you can pretty much bet someone will use. About 50 players can fill those assets, out of a team of 32.

Leaving very few Infantry units - who will be fishfood for the other assets

With the abundance of cool vehicles you can bet you'll see a lot of 1 manning armour, 1 manning gunships and a crap load of drama that is sure to derive from player's enjoyment, and especially an admin who has to sort it out.

Like I said, it might work out, but from seeing how quinling usually progresses, I'm weary. That means you will be lucky to see even 1 solid infantry squad. I know the prupose is to create a higher level of teamplay with assets, but without the backbone of infantry to which these assets must support I'm unsure how it would turn out.

IMHO, I believe it would most likely turn into a "Every Asset for themselves" kind of battle. The Jets would go off and dog fight enemy ones, the tanks would kill tanks and there would be really very little cohesion between the units. It lacks the glue that holds a team together: Infantry.

Let's take Kashan for example, on Kashan you can often find great teamwork. The Armour supports the Infantry, who in return can push forward capping flags and the Jets support the ground forces in thier push by eliminating armoured units and other air threats. But, when there is no infantry to advance, the objective based gameplay PR is driven by will be kind of lost.

I can't really make any suggestions as this is the kind of thing you're aiming for. If I were to change something I would maybe cut back on the amount of air and armoured assets. It may work great, this is just my opinion.

In any case best of luck.

Agreed.

Mr.47, your map idea is fantastic, and with the idea about moving away from "Town-Based" Flags" to more regional, I have high hopes. It sounds like a great map and I look forward to playing it.

However, I think you're doubling up on vehicles that do pretty much the same job. Under your list you have the Osprey, Blackhawk, and Chinook. All of which, are transport/supply vehicles. I'm not sure you need that many/that much variety. Maybe 2 Black Hawk, and 2 (or 1) Chinook (with its proposed 2 Supply crates I think?) would be a better idea? Limiting your Helicopter/Transport/Support air assets to 1 or 2 types would be a lot more managable. I just think your vehicle loadout might be a little "too" extreme.

1 or 2 A10s
1 Jet
3-4 Helos (2 of a kind probably, but not 3...)
5-6 tanks
2-4 AA
4ish Trucks
ect....

while you'll want to make a map that is mostly vehicle/cas ehavy, infantry still are going to play a part in capping those flags, make sure atleast that you leave enough assets so that there is still an infantry component, even if it's just 2 or 3 squads of 3-6 people.