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Discussion: Project Reality / PR:BF2 - Quick Mumble Poll - -mat552
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-When I tried the .4 version of pr mumble, it always caused a
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07-16-2009, 02:30 AM #61
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Re: Quick Mumble Poll
-mat552
-no
-When I tried the .4 version of pr mumble, it always caused a bsod, and no one could figure out why. After I upgraded to .5, it leeched onto my bf2 installation and corrupted my voip, and now for 15-20 minutes after I join a game I cannot hear or speak using voip. And it still causes a bsod.
Long story short: Mumble is out to destroy my computer.BF3 is a good game, and when they finish it, it may even be a great game.
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07-16-2009, 03:02 AM #62
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BSOD are normally driver issues. It is highly probable that mumble made your sound drivers see things that were inappropriate and touch things that made it feel uncomfortable.
Originally Posted by mat552
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07-16-2009, 04:51 AM #63
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Yo, indeed I use mumble (was me who posted it on the PR forums in the first place
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mat, try lookin in ur audio input tab, maybe its the device you have selected.
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07-16-2009, 09:09 AM #64
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Oh alright, just this one post, and I'll edit it as people have suggestions.
Feel free to PM me with tech help, I'm sure the thread doesn't need derailing anymore than this.
I'd try if I could launch mumble. Double clicking on the executable causes the bsod, not talking or anything. Originally Posted by Rudd_medicman
BF3 is a good game, and when they finish it, it may even be a great game.
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07-16-2009, 09:54 AM #65
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I always use mumble
Reason why? makes platoon size movements possible just as others said about the fellujah round, We had 3 infantry squads, an APC squad and a motorized squad all operating as one, and this was only possible beacause of mumble.
I also have to agree mumble does everything TS does but with more features. Every thing on mumble .5 is preset and ready to go after you bind your keys.
Mumble breaks the barrier between your squad and a blue player, When my medic got shot, I managed to run over to a squad 100 meters away ask for their medic and they hooked us up. However if we didnt have mumble that would have never happened.
It has got to the point where i rarely use TS for PR as the people that are on mumble are usually easier to squad up and coordinate with, as comms are very clear and its amaizingly easy to know exactly who you are talking with.
Its true that TS is satisfactory but mumble is better (For PR) Mumble is still new and has its bugs but i can say that since i have got it i have had no problems at all. I installed it set my voip key and jumped ingame and it worked .PR ingame name - |TG-Irr| SilverJohn
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07-16-2009, 11:18 AM #66
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I would like to point out for those who haven't used Mumble in a while, that the constant spam that would take place before and after games or the random guy that would connect to server and talk like no one can hear him, is pretty much obsolete. (Moral +1 for awesome run-on sentence)
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07-16-2009, 03:35 PM #67
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snip
- sorry, started to go offtrackJust because everyone does something does not mean that it is right to do.
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07-17-2009, 10:53 AM #68
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Yes, Mumble is great.
Positional voice communication between all soldiers on your team and/or server is a really nice feature to have when playing a game as tactical and strategic as PR. Having Squad Leader comm. channels to coordinate movement/maneuvers on your team is critical to coordinated success, and it leaves the opposing team at a great disadvantage if they aren't using Mumble for the same purpose.
Complaints about Mumble should be few and far between now: Beta 0.5 has a lot of the recommended settings locked in at install time (as long as you don't have previous custom configurations from 0.4), voice spam is a lot less frequent as most mumblers have learned comm. discipline, not to mention it is catching on quickly with concepts like RT's mumble-only server.
Other than TeamSpeak being the previously default VoIP system for TG, I don't see the benefit to using TS for anything other than off-topic chatting with TG buddies or coordinating ONLY with TG players. This is a attitude that is harmful to good team coordination, teamwork, and getting new players involved with the PR and TG communities.
Since the greater PR community if moving toward Mumble as the VoIP supplement of choice for PR, I think TG would be wise to follow suit. I promise you won't regret it!
(Apologies if I am repeating what has already been said in this thread.)
P.S.: I definitely think a single Mumble channel for the TG server is a good idea. As long as mumblers aren't spamming global broadcast, it will work fine, and it only serves to increase the level of realism in game (enemies being able to hear your voice when you get near). Two separate squad leader sub-channels, one for each team, is still required; the rest of the players could be in the same parent channel and Mumble would still work well.
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07-17-2009, 11:06 AM #69
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When I install the Beta it keeps crashing if I go to settings to set my microphone. No sound is played when I go into the server.
Anyone had this problem, otherwise I may have to reinstall
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07-17-2009, 11:14 AM #70
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>yes
>Reason why: Makes communications so much easier, be it as inf - inf, inf - apc, inf - heli, tank - CAS, inf - CAS, or as seperate armour/air units within a squad
my favourite few things are as an inf SL being pinned down having my guys in cover as i run back to talk to an APC to get some fire support. or as trans pilot being able to ask without typing (which is hard inflight) where they want to go.
overall i love mumbleLast edited by AnimalMother; 07-17-2009 at 11:44 AM.
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07-17-2009, 01:01 PM #71
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- Sometimes
Have used it too great effect with guys like Cougar etc and it was fun, but then Cougar uses TS effectively as well. So I don't think that is necessarily a glowing endorsement of mumble.
Seems like a great tool but the interface is poorly laid out and not very user friendly in comparison to TS (maybe just familiarity). A comms tool is only useful if everyone uses it so I am not bothered about mumble until it's adopted officially by TG. Plus we haven't even managed to get more than a third of the players on the server using TS during most games (rough average guess) which has been running for years. Another thing I see is that a lot of the early adopters have just got excited about the 'toy' value of it, the ability to mess about and make immature comments. Hopefully if it's adopted it will be policed as TS is, if not better.
Also the single channel for all players is imo a massive no no. 1, it breaks the immersion factor as everyone will be speaking English for the most part therefore how can you tell who's who. 2, we will have the taunting problem and people just goofing off, "I shot you lol", "Is that you?". Plus the potential for confrontation is enormous. I personally feel that we need to keep seperate channels. You will still be able to locate enemies due to careless ingame voip use.
I've also heard that the next version of TS is supposed to incorporate all the current features of mumble, not sure how true that is but I will be interested to see.
It's a shame that the people that constantly type in "are you in mumble", "who's got mumble" every round couldn't get off their backside,install and use TS as that's what's supported currently at TG.
If it get's supported and regulated by TG I might use it more often, for now it's a childs toy for the most part.TG PR Admins: Fighting for YOU on the frontlines in the War on Stupidity.
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07-17-2009, 01:30 PM #72
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It is very strictly regulated by both TG admins and by the PR community leaders.
Our teams are split between 2 channels so you are unable to hear the other team.
As for officaly adopting Mumble in the TG community. It's been adopted by a great many of us. Those of you who have replied no are the only ones keeping it from total community support.
I assure you all that every complaint in this thread is no longer allowed, no longer applys, no longer possible. The 0.5 mumble is as close to perfect as possible.
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07-17-2009, 02:52 PM #73
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- SnipingBastard
- Yes
- Love the positional/3d-audio (i am into technology + its open source ); adds to the immersion
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07-17-2009, 06:06 PM #74
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But TS is the advertised intersquad communication tool, with four team specific communication channels for PR showing it is the TG preferred tool. When mumble is advertised through a sticky on the top of the page and TS has a single channel for PR Discussions then mumble will be the TG supported communication tool. Originally Posted by Portable.Cougar
Besides, the 63-36 split is not exactly a landslide. A few mumble only events would increase the usage and lead some of the people who had issues with earlier versions to give it another try. People who have replied 'no' include people like me who just want it to replace TS instead of having both, we aren't holding back adoption, we are just waiting for it to be official.Just because everyone does something does not mean that it is right to do.
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07-17-2009, 10:17 PM #75
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"Not enough people use it"
As I write this there are 23 people on mumble, yesterday half the server was on mumble before and during PW night.
Mumble is often the primary method for team coordination these days
"I don't want to have both TS and mumble running"
Good job Mumble does everything TS does then
"Don't want to be overloaded with coms"
Splitting x amount of coms into more channels doesn't increase x. Mumble's positional audio increases the relevant information while reducing the irrelevant info you'd be hearing on TS
"Too lazy to install/too complicated"
Takes less than 5 mins to download, install and setup. See cougar's thread
"TeamSpeak works fine, why change?"
Teamchat works fine, why change?
"I'll use it if we get a TG server"
How will that help? we have admin rights on the PR server, not that there are any issues other than moving people
being on the public server allows non-regs to communicate with us, and then to become regulars when they've experienced the resulting teamwork.
Note: In this thread alone I can see Rudd and AnimalMother, both recently joined up to the forums after having good rounds on TG with mumble (tell me if i'm wrong)
A private server would worsen gameplay in the short and long run
What, you need the TG admins to tell you're allowed to use something before you'll use it? Originally Posted by snooggums
The only thing really holding mumble back is the people who still insist on using TS because they won't try mumble, or have unfounded issues with it
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Mumble is open source and TwistedHelix is still working on it. The future plan is for mumble to be started in the background when you start PR, when you join a server it automatically puts you in the correct channel. There's potential for much more, pretty much whatever people think of. Originally Posted by A.WICKENS
Catching up to mumble's current featureset won't cut it for TS
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