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08-29-2009, 12:19 AM #31
Re: Goodbye?
Full Sail 'Real World Education'. Out on University, not too horribly far from UCF.
Applied to UCF, and was denied, for no explicable reason (all my grades were fine, community service was fine and I submitted it quite a bit before the deadline, but I was denied. Only thing I can think of is that either I was denied because of space, or my extracurriculars were low, which was due to the fact that my mother is disabled and I couldn't really afford at that point in time to be spending time after school in a club, or anything)
Yes, they do. Been setting it up, it's just so fluid and fluent in how it functions that it feels like I could compare Mac to a video game and Windows to a show or movie; yeah, the movie may look pretty good but it sure isn't anywhere near as interactive.
Like Belhade says, if you are comparing the actual system specs there is no difference between a Mac and a PC with identical hardware.
In regards to the Mac OSX itself, it runs a lot more efficiently for many programs designed for it, doesn't run 'programs' that aren't designed for it (which, in a way, is a good thing; viruses are generally designed for Windows, which is why Macs are not affected).
The downside to the fact that it doesn't run programs designed for it is that at least out of the box, it doesn't run games developed for Windows, it doesn't run .exe's (can't install a program that isn't offered in a Mac-version or a Mac-'friendly'-version).
And, the redemption of this is the fact that there are very many ways to emulate a Windows OS (freeware or shareware programs as well as pay-for-use products can either 'fake' the OS and run programs themselves through it, or can emulate the entire windows environment inside of the Mac), or you can install Windows natively through bootcamp (just like you can install XP and Vista on the same system, you can install Mac OSX/XP/Vista/Linux/Unix/etc.)
In other news, I recieved my software bundles today.
Adobe Master Collection (Installed, includes most of the current programs from Adobe)
Final Cut Studio 4 (Not yet installed, professional editting suite)
Windows Office (Installoled, mostly useless)
No news on the new Mac OS update, though. It was released today, and it's relatively cheap to upgrade from the current OS to the newer one, but since I'm getting it free through the school I am not going to waste my money for now.
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08-29-2009, 12:44 AM #32
Re: Goodbye?
An accelerated web design course, is it a one-two year deal? I did a web development (including design) course in two years, wam-bam-thank-you-mam style. Good luck, with the college life - drinking, getting chicks, learning, etc.
As for the OP I am sure you will have PR up and running in a few weeks, that is if you really want to play boring four hour maps.
*Refrains from MAC bashing*
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08-29-2009, 03:32 AM #33
Re: Goodbye?
2 year bachelors degree.
If I were to have PR up and running soon it would likely require me finding a good deal on WinXP (preferably 64-bit) and getting that installed, then getting to a hard-connection to the internet (not a huge deal getting to one, but staying there and letting something like PR download is a bit of a different issue, so who knows. Certainly don't think it should take too long, but don't know how soon really.
Mac bash all you want, I'll see if I can disprove you! :P (Let's just not derail this thread for that purpose, lol)
I learned a lot of things about how my schedule will be... and it's gonna put me through a loop but isn't too bad in itself... Classes run on a 4 hour schedule, and they are either Lectures or Labs; often, Lectures are accompanied by Labs, meaning 8 hour days. Pretty hefty stuff.
My first week is showing signs that it will be a 8 hour Lecture/Lab session from 5pm to 1am on Tuesday, then again on Thursday. This means that my sleep structure will be thrown out the window, run over with a tractor, thrown in a lake, doused in kerosene and lit with a matched, placed in ICU and operated on without anesthesia before finally letting Life Support run out of juice, and then desecrating it's former self.
But, it also means that otherwise, I'm relatively free; Saturdays and Sundays are off, and it seems that 2-3 days out of the week I am pretty much free, which means besides rearranging a sleep schedule to ensure I'm not dead when I get to class, I will have quite a bit of freetime outside of projects. Gives a bit of time to game and relax.
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08-29-2009, 02:48 PM #34
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08-30-2009, 12:07 AM #35
Re: Goodbye?
Breaks are bear minimum, classes are sporadic and months are filled to the brim with classes.
fullsail.edu is the website, too tired to think much more right now.
After you have completed a course at the school, you can return to audit classes that you have previously taken to brush up on the new techniques and technologies (which is great, especially if say something revolutionary like the iPhone comes around and new web software is developed to program on it, I can always just call up and ask to audit a class I have previously taken for my degree.
The school is actually really strict, fast-paced, and almost unorderly in it's organization of class schedules and etc, but it is focused completely on only doing the necessary classes for your degree program rather than making you take GenEd classes for the first year(s). And yes, it is accredited.
I was speaking with my uncle today and I've got a lot accomplish in the areas of getting some software...
(1) Got Snow Leopard and installed it early, since my brother had to have a copy of his own for his computers at home (anyone who owns a mac, there is no actual reason to buy the family package, as far as we can tell. It has no CD-Key registrar, so it seemingly can be installed on multiple machines). I installed it early to get access to Bootcamp 3.0 earlier, which is like getting drivers... or something... installed so that the OS functions properly on the Mac system.
(2) Got a Windows XP Pro 32-bit install disk (Uncle's copy). Unfortunately, it appears the disk was unreadable in certain areas (the i386 files, to be exact, meaning it would lose pretty much all network functionality, which is no good when it's supposed to be for gaming.
(3) Got a Windows Vista Upgrade disk Package (Again, Uncle's copy. Wasn't used, though, so a bit of a different situation). Both 32-bit and 64-bit CDs are available; if for any reason the 64-bit will not install on my machine, then I have the 32-bit as a backup to at least keep my system content until I can get a XP 32-bit install or a Win7 32/64-bit install. The Vista Upgrade package was never used due to the fact that the computer he ordered it for actually came installed with Vista, so he just stored the disk away since it was useless for him. Lucky me.
(4) Found out that he is becoming a gamer these days, currently playing EVE Online and I told him about PR. He was in the services, and he says he enjoys the wargames a bit, and the slower pace and more strategy-than-skill based PR would probably suit him a little better than a fast paced FPS (He's blind in one eye, so his twitch FPS skills probably aren't the best, but at the same time he still has one pretty good eye, so playing something like PR should be just fine), and I bookmarked the v0.5 and v0.8 trailers for him so he could take some time later and watch them, see what he thinks. Since he's a bit new to the gaming scene, he doesn't know much about like secondary programs like Ventrilo (which I installed for him today), I'll be giving him that kind of help as well as recommending and letting him demo some of the games I own. He's also got the money I don't have for things like memberships and etc, so we'll kind of work along with each other in that respect.
(5) Also found out that his Desktop, a Vista 32-bit is actually pretty sturdy; there is an 8400GT card I believe in it, and it's a dual-core 2.XGHz. It should be able to handle PR pretty decently, I think, since it can run EVE Online and has those specs.
So, a couple advancements of just today. There's been a lot of questions, a lot of learning how to use BootCamp for installing Windows, and a lot of waiting for it to install, then frustration of XP not working, then the sweet relief of a Vista 64-bit package. I'll be trying to install it, BF2, and PR within a couple of days; Tomorrow my brother goes home, and I don't start classes as far as I can tell until Tuesday, so that leaves 2 (and a half, classes start at 5:15pm) days to work on getting Vista installed, and stable...
If anyone perhaps knows of some tips using Vista from XP, since I've never actually used Vista on one of my computers (current computer is Vista, but it's my Grandmothers decrepit dinosaur that can't play much of anything at all, so I don't know about the whole run as administrator shebang and such), I would greatly appreciate it if you could PM/Post them, or even link me to a guide for those kinds of things.
I'd also like to try to strip the install down to it's bare essentials (I won't need WinMedia player, etc, so I'd love to find someone/somewhere that can tell me what I can get rid of and how to do so), since it's only on a 50GB partition, and will only be used for gaming, there's no real need to have the junk weighing me down if I can help it.
Lots of stuff. If anyone can help me with the Vista questions, PM me or Post here and either link me to a site with the info or provide the info straight. I'd be greatly appreciative.
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08-30-2009, 07:56 PM #36
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Celestial, good luck buddy, I've never played PR on anything other than My Mac... currently running Windows 7 Ultimate, was running it all under XP... shouldn't be a problem at all, just run bootcamp and dual boot it... Mac for work, and everything but games, windows for games...
Davemccr
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08-30-2009, 10:57 PM #37
Re: Goodbye?
What Mac do you have? What is your CPU/GFX/RAM specs?
Good to hear that you play PR on a Mac system, good to know that someone else has made it work well!
I installed Vista on my 50 gig bootcamp partition, which I'm going to pretty much strip down to basics (removing unnecessary programs and data) so that the partition will only hold games, and will run with the least background processes running (since it's a laptop, getting the more power out of the system to run only what it needs will be essential in having a low temperature).
I have a Macbook Pro, which has a 500gb HDD, so I partitioned it to have 50gbs for the Windows side, but installing XP then installing Vista has caused nearly half of the partition to be filled up, mostly because of the Windows.old folder I think (which I haven't gotten around to deleting just yet).
I'm kind of refraining from using the Vista partition as of yet, because I only have access to unsecured wireless networks at this house. When I get over to my aunt and uncles house, I'll have both a wireless network of theirs and an ethernet connection, so I'll connect there, install the kind of anti-virus and such that I need to keep it safe and then I'll begin downloading my Steam files and BF2/PR files off the ethernet connection.
It's only a matter of time before I can get PR running, as soon as I get over to my aunt & uncle's place I'll be hooking up to download my virus and etc protection, then I'll get to downloading my files.
I've also got to look into finding a temporary mouse... playing on a trackpad is not as delightful. Once I get myself situated I'll probably be going out and buying a new G5 or G9, or whatever the newest iteration from Logitech is. And I'll also be picking up some kind of portable headset, since right now my iPhone headphones (which do have a mic) is the only thing I have in that regard...
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08-31-2009, 02:14 AM #38
Mac PR
I'm running it on an older 2.4ghz, iMac with Radeon 2600xt (256mb). All settings medium or High, 4 gig of ram. Windows 7 Ultimate (Was XP earlier.) It isn't the best gaming rig, but I get by... New Macbook pro to be purchased soon, probably next week or so, I'm sure that the Laptop that you have will allow you to run everything on Max settings. Make sure that you max out the ram on it, it will gobble it all up

G9 mouse, love it...
Logitech USB Pro headset (love it...) Make sure that your headset is USB as standard "PC" headsets don't work on Apples optical in port (no, it isn't a mic jack)...
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08-31-2009, 06:11 AM #39
Re: Mac PR
It's got 4 gigs of RAM, and has somewhere around 2.8GHz processor (dual cores, at that), and has the Nvidia 9900mGT, so I hope that I can run it all at mostly high settings (besides the issues I think it was with textures on high?)
Had a G5 on my old rig, loved that thing too...G9 mouse, love it...
I noticed that Logitech is coming out with the G500, which is basically the look and feel of the G5, but with techspecs that surpass the G9 (G500 = 5700 dpi vs G9 = 5000 dpi), which is a lot of overkill and all, but at that same token-the G500 will be released at $70, compared to the G9's current price of $100.
Better specs and 30 dollars less? I'll be enjoying it, even if it means I don't get the fancy color-changing screen on it, lol.
I was looking at new headsets... I previously had a logitech set, and I think it was the USB Pro, but I have no idea, it's been too long.Logitech USB Pro headset (love it...) Make sure that your headset is USB as standard "PC" headsets don't work on Apples optical in port (no, it isn't a mic jack)...
Do you know whether "PC" headsets using a USB jack can run on the bootcamp, if they are only 'Windows' compatible? I assume they should, but I don't know whether or not since bootcamp is the source of drivers for the partition.
Reason I ask is I was looking into the G35 Surround Sound Gaming Headset (a whopping $130 dollars, but it would be so worth it, and I've got leftovers from Grad money and such that I can will away without worries at this point)... Logitech's website shows whether it's 'Mac' or 'Windows' Compatible, but since bootcamp issues seem to be so hard to know beforehand since it seems buried in the recesses of Mac web manuals, I would love to know whether you have any authority on the subject?
Also, the Macbook Pro you're getting, I'd def. suggest getting the 15" model with the discrete GPU. Runs smooth as silk in Mac OSX, using Snow Leopard, and I'm sure it'll handle gaming real well. If you're not going to be using it for gaming or intensive graphical processing, ignore this.
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08-31-2009, 12:58 PM #40
Re: Goodbye?
Yes, the USB headsets are plug and play in Windows. Yeah, I'm going to pick up the same machine that you have... Looking forward to it...
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08-31-2009, 08:42 PM #41
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Honestly, on the subject of mice:
I recently picked up one of those Razer Mambas. For infantry combat it's absolutely wonderful: You can take the sensitivity up for, say, SAWs while deployed or down for sniper rifles. Same with tanks/armor.
Not so much, though, in attack helicopters. I used to be much better with them than I am now because I was used to a different sensitivity; I guess I'll just have to play with the settings until I get it back to the way I was used to.
But I'd definitely recommend getting a mouse with sensitivity settings like the Logitechs and the Razers. They're dead useful.
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08-31-2009, 10:56 PM #42
Re: Goodbye?
Missed me missed me now you gotta... Give me money.
I'll most likely be getting the G500, considering it will be one of the best available from logitech in regards to techspecs, and will be even cheaper than the G9, so it seems like a great deal especially considering my desktop rig back home uses a G5.
Cool. I was hoping so.
Also, the MbPro is pretty nice... it's light, portable, but still a beast of a machine. I'm amazed at how well apple handled the hardware on it to make it just right.
Question: For some reason when I attempt to hard boot the computer (after having turned it off completely, then starting it) and attempt to use my Windows partition, it will begin to show some of the loading screens, but somehow it will end up loading OSX. Don't know why, and it's probably user error, seeing as I usually end up having my attention diverted from the screen when it occurs, so I have yet to see what point it seems to reach before it fails and reboots under OSX.
My first class is tomorrow starting at 5pm until 1am. I'll pretty much be pulling an all-nighter and then sleeping from around 3am to 3 pm or so, so that I get a good amount of sleep without feeling too groggy in the morning. It should prove to be an interesting first day. Hopefully I can get TF2 installed between tonight and tomorrow so that I can play before class starts if I'm early, between breaks, and after class, since I'll have quite a bit of time to kill. I am getting pretty bad connections around here, feeding off of strangers wifi and slow ethernet lines, hopefully I'll be able to set my computer to download using the ethernet at school tomorrow.
Hectic, to say the least.
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08-31-2009, 10:59 PM #43
Re: Goodbye?
doesn't this thread belong in the tech forums at this point?
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09-01-2009, 12:18 AM #44
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While the subject of the thread has indeed changed, does it really need to be moved to where no one will read it, where the OP knows next to no one and the conversation will die out?
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09-01-2009, 02:16 AM #45
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Primary purpose of this thread is still to provide updates on my situation.
I'm just presenting these questions due to the fact that I have dave as a captive audience, so I'm just taking advantage of the fact to see his opinions on the matter. Not to mention since there aren't many Mac gamers any issues with bootcamp or otherwise are going to be harder when trying to receive a response from PC based community.
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