Re: Asset Stealling.... hm....

**McGann** · 08-04-2009, 01:54 PM

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to A.WICKENS again.

**Warlab** · 08-04-2009, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by McGann

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to A.WICKENS again.

Ditto.

**Donrhos** · 08-04-2009, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by McGann

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to A.WICKENS again.

Same here

**ACOGRecon** · 08-04-2009, 05:22 PM

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to A.WICKENS again."

**Crombo** · 08-04-2009, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by A.WICKENS

Just to clarify, as far as I'm aware only the CO can assign assets.

- naming your squad '? asset', counts for nothing

- calling an asset on TS before the round has started counts for nothing, the asset hoarders love to do this one, often whilst we are still playing the previous round

- calling an asset on mumble counts for less than nothing as it's not even the officially supported means of communication at TG at present

NB Calling assets on any Voip excludes non-voip users, you may not like it but VOIP ain't compulsory

This thread and some of the replies appear to me to be merely thinly veiled attempts to justify the asset hogging that goes on already and bring about a rule change that would suit said players.

I hear sentiments like 'I would let a pubbie fly if he asked', lol, who do you think you are? They have as much right to take that asset as you do, maybe, morally, even more so, as I bet they have had less chance to use it than you.

The other supposed argument put forward is that 'it's about teamwork and not wasting assets'. Pull the other one, it's about you getting your way, it's about you getting to fly the Hydra Huey every damn time, it's about you getting the LB or the Apache, it's all about you.

Wasting tickets, right. When someone else crashes it's because they are a noob, when you crash it's lag. Bet you step down and let someone else fly when your having a bad day, sure you do.

This rant is not directed specifically at the OP or the contributors to this thread, it's for all the asset hoarding players out there that couldn't give a monkeys' about anyone else on the server.

So what about those of us who are asking for an adjustment trial period to the rule who dont even use assets??

**Celestial1** · 08-04-2009, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by A.WICKENS

This thread and some of the replies appear to me to be merely thinly veiled attempts to justify the asset hogging that goes on already and bring about a rule change that would suit said players.

I hear sentiments like 'I would let a pubbie fly if he asked', lol, who do you think you are? They have as much right to take that asset as you do, maybe, morally, even more so, as I bet they have had less chance to use it than you.

Wasting tickets, right. When someone else crashes it's because they are a noob, when you crash it's lag. Bet you step down and let someone else fly when your having a bad day, sure you do.

This rant is not directed specifically at the OP or the contributors to this thread, it's for all the asset hoarding players out there that couldn't give a monkeys' about anyone else on the server.

I love how you are so direct about your comments towards people in the thread and then say "I'm not pointing any fingers". If you're going to be blunt, be blunt. I'm sure the asset whores will get the message "That means you, too".

Whether you believe my statement or not is your perogative.

For your other points, I do agree, in a way. As far as I'm concerned, if an equally capable set of pilots were to take the assets I might feel a little flustered that I spent time setting up, but I'm not about to yell and complain because someone took it or report them; I'll find something else to do. When they're dicking about in the sky playing pretend, then it does aggravate me because they're not helping anyone but themselves. Past that, though, I couldn't give less of a damn if half of an IHS took every asset on the map, I'll play infantry, it won't kill me.

**Skud** · 08-04-2009, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by McGann

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to A.WICKENS again.

It's a chronic problem.

**Crombo** · 08-05-2009, 12:24 AM

Why is it that when certian Admins say it isnt going to change its the end all be all of it? Arnt Admins only suppose to uphold the current rules? Are the rules not decided by the TG community as a whole? If Im wrong then we arnt a community were a clan.

**snooggums** · 08-05-2009, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Crombo

Why is it that when certian Admins say it isnt going to change its the end all be all of it? Arnt Admins only suppose to uphold the current rules? Are the rules not decided by the TG community as a whole? If Im wrong then we arnt a community were a clan.

We are a benevolent dictatorship ruled by the god Apophis.

**Bandaid** · 08-05-2009, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Crombo

Why is it that when certian Admins say it isnt going to change its the end all be all of it? Arnt Admins only suppose to uphold the current rules? Are the rules not decided by the TG community as a whole? If Im wrong then we arnt a community were a clan.

It could be that the majority of TG agrees with them.
I could be wrong, just my observation.

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 08-05-2009, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Crombo

Why is it that when certian Admins say it isnt going to change its the end all be all of it? Arnt Admins only suppose to uphold the current rules? Are the rules not decided by the TG community as a whole? If Im wrong then we arnt a community were a clan.

Just because you think it's a good idea doesn't mean it is.

Seriously, what purpose would creating this new rule serve that the current rules don't? Most people adhere to some form of gentleman's agreement that if there isn't a CO and a squad exists with an asset name then those assets are left alone anyway.

If it ain't broke...

**MarineSeaknight** · 08-05-2009, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by d1sp0sabl3H3r0

If it ain't broke...

Complain?

**Celestial1** · 08-05-2009, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by d1sp0sabl3H3r0

If it ain't broke...

Just pointing this out... to Crombo, this would sure look broke. If there's an argument about it, you can bet that someone thinks something is broken.

Take a step back, though, Crombo.

Will the new rules HELP the situation?
More rules means that while there is a lot easier of a time identifying that someone is breaking a rule, there is also more opportunities for anyone to break those rules, and it become a bit hectic when you have to physically check whether you can take matters in to your hands as an admin. People will STILL break rules, no matter what, but does clarifying the rules to a tee in any situation really help? Sometimes, people just don't have the common sense to be courteous, and sometimes they just don't have morality to care about rules, or other people.

When rules are less defined and more arbitrary there becomes a bit of a blurred line between breaking rules and scathing past certain punishment. But, it then allows it to become more situation-based rather than standard-based (standards don't always meet the situation!) and means that in the end a rightful, calm decision can be made about the issue.

And if you still disagree with this: remember, humans are naturally adverse to change in any way, especially when they have had something that has done them mostly right in the past.

**Crombo** · 08-05-2009, 09:43 AM

Touche'

This is just one of those things that obviously I have strong opinions towards. But I digress, I will just let it go.

**Soupy_Norman** · 08-05-2009, 11:59 AM

I set up a Tank/APC squad on kozlesk (think thats the right one) and SL'd it.
I dont normally run these squads, nor use those assets that much. After i had lost 2 tanks to the bridge and an APC to the spandral i just gave up and we changed to an INF squad.

I decided that id leave it to someone with more experience (not namebot, he just seemed drunk or something

) as i was clearly losing far too many tickets.

Now alot of people would have carried on regardless wasting tickets which is why it would have been better FOR SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE/WHO USUALLY DOES IT TO TAKE THE REIGNS.

Just like i can fly transport choppers till the cows come home, and usually do take them whenever possible.

Hows that wrong Wick?

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