Re: Vehicle & weapons question

**Celestial1** · 10-15-2009, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Berlancic

Getting steam is easy, I once had steam, but the unistalled it, can't remember why. I'll gladly do it, anything for PR2.

They were thinking of around 5-$10 monthly (USD?), that's awesome when you think about it, 5 dollars per month for a game so great. Although I would prefer to simply pay and that's that, but PR2 I think will be constantly changing as it does now, and I don't think it would be so easy to market and export and all the other such and such.

Considering the mass updates done to PR over the span of time, they're beating every game I know of in content updates over time. I would gladly pay 10 for sure, and I would probably pony up 15 a month.

**snooggums** · 10-15-2009, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Celestial1

Considering the mass updates done to PR over the span of time, they're beating every game I know of in content updates over time. I would gladly pay 10 for sure, and I would probably pony up 15 a month.

I would pay 30-60 per year max, so if it was monthly it would need to be down to 2.50 to 5 dollars a month max for me to be interested. While they do add content WoW justifies their monthly amount by having seasonal content, new areas and revamping of existing ones, constant class changes etc along with hosting the servers the game is played on. PR does not have updates in a comparable amount and I doubt they will be hosting servers so the price as a subscription would have to be a lot lower to be justified for me.

**Celestial1** · 10-15-2009, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by snooggums

I would pay 30-60 per year max, so if it was monthly it would need to be down to 2.50 to 5 dollars a month max for me to be interested. While they do add content WoW justifies their monthly amount by having seasonal content, new areas and revamping of existing ones, constant class changes etc along with hosting the servers the game is played on. PR does not have updates in a comparable amount and I doubt they will be hosting servers so the price as a subscription would have to be a lot lower to be justified for me.

It's a different scene, though.

WoW doesn't need much actual content really done, beside every now and then smacking together a player-model for whatever item they now have, and typing in values and etc...

There's a lot more that goes into the content in PR, and therefore could be considered more 'quality' whereas WoW's is very much simply adding values for damage/properties and sometimes making an actual model for the weapon (often enough, especially for the lower level items, they reuse the same model tenfold).

I think it's actually pretty comparable... also, a lot of patches are bug fixes to the large amounts of content that they add in, whereas PR wouldn't have many glaring bugs in gameplay mechanics, etc etc... However, like I said, I would probably do so. If I'm paying 15 dollars a month, I want my moneys worth for sure.

**machineofdeath** · 10-15-2009, 01:59 PM

I wouldn't like the monthly fee, that would be a rip off imo. Now if it was like EA were the updates & patches were free but for map packs you would have to pay for then I would do that.

**Berlancic** · 10-15-2009, 05:55 PM

We'll just have to wait and see what money plan they'll come up with.

**Axis_Sniper** · 10-15-2009, 08:12 PM

I rather pay per update, then pay per month. Seems only the right thing to do.

**Berlancic** · 10-16-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Axis_Sniper

I rather pay per update, then pay per month. Seems only the right thing to do.

That sounds good.

**LeadMagnet** · 10-16-2009, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Berlancic

We'll just have to wait and see what money plan they'll come up with.

We also accept hookers and booze...

**Berlancic** · 10-16-2009, 11:15 AM

Yay!

**Akaz** · 10-16-2009, 01:23 PM

I think the issue with pay per update model is that not everyone buys the new updates that results in higher support cost of the developer but more critically it will fragment an already small player community leading to greater difficulty in getting full servers.

IMO the only models that work with niche MP games are either pay once play forever model (Downside => Ongoing support harder for devs) or a subscription based model (Downside => less popular with customers).

Given that even a weekend only gamer can get 10 hours a month (2.5 hours a week) of entertainment means that at $5 its only $0.5 per hour. At $10 its only $1 per hour. This still way cheaper than eating out, movies, live shows heck even playing organized pick up sports.

**snooggums** · 10-16-2009, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by LeadMagnet

We also accept hookers and booze...

What about blackjack?

**Celestial1** · 10-17-2009, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Akaz

IMO the only models that work with niche MP games are either pay once play forever model (Downside => Ongoing support harder for devs) or a subscription based model (Downside => less popular with customers).

Pay per update, if you flinch on a payment your game is disabled until updated.

Never been done before, venturing into unknown territory, etc etc!

**Wicks** · 10-17-2009, 11:25 AM

If you go down the pay per update model I expect consumers would want substantial content per update, i.e maps, factions and not just fixes and tweaks to things. When people start stumping up cash for what would undoubtedly be a quality product they get a lot more critical, such is life.

**Axis_Sniper** · 10-17-2009, 12:07 PM

If it is gonna be pay per update, it should be for the big ones, where new factions/maps are introduced.

1 faction, or 3+ maps should require money to download. Tweaks, or bug fixes, or gameplay balance changes should be free. Not only would this breathe new life into the game, but it would be worth the money and I wouldn't mind paying money for it.

**mat552** · 10-17-2009, 01:57 PM

Sliiiiiipery slope. There is a great measure of trust that I have in the PR team that I don't immediately fear micropayments. (M203 addon for your rifle? That'll be 5$ *shudder*)

Pay per update was something that EA tried. The first "Booster Pack" was exactly what was some of you said you'd pay for. A new faction, three new maps, new vehicles and new weapons. And I know not all of us found PR before that booster came out :P How many people actually bought it?

Pay per month, so long as the updates roll regularly and the fee is reasonably low is a better option in my eyes. Better. The best is a onetime purchase price, and major updates as expansions (4+ new factions, weapons, vehicles, the whole gamut. Lots of content. Lots.)

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