Re: What a way to kill the server???

**Paine** · 12-27-2009, 12:54 PM

haha yea in WWII they actually launched a massive counter offensive on christmas eve

**ankyle62** · 12-27-2009, 01:37 PM

it's only once a year, hardly worth bitching about.

**Belhade** · 12-27-2009, 02:13 PM

OMG YOU FOLKS SRSLY STOP KILLING THE SERVER WHEN WERE TRYIN TO PLAY I CANT BLV YOU PPL ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT CRAP LIKE PEACE AND HARMONY DURING THE HOLIDAYS WHEN I"M TRYIN TO KILL PPL!!

(If I'd have known there was a peace summit/ATV race going on last night when I came back I definitely would have rejoined!)

**Havok** · 12-27-2009, 02:28 PM

Lol it was fun Belhade, we had a good 20-40 ATVs spawned in and were just running around ramming each other. A few logi trucks came around and 7 of us took off like ants after prey, we later rammed into a merlin, lynx, Z10 (lol), and the British AAV. Was good fun, except for the complainers who wanted it to be serious business at 1:30-3:00 AM.

**brettwad** · 12-27-2009, 03:24 PM

To all,
I started this post about what happened at 1:30 AM this morning (12/27), not Xmas day nor the day after Xmas. My problem about what happened this morning was that instead of announcing at the beginning of the map that we were going to be doing something else on the map at a specific time, halfway through the map the Squads that were playing got left out (no support, no answer for support, folks team switching). These were the problems with this 'event', not that the 'event' happened or not.
Plus not to mention the guys leaving the 'Peace Fest' on the 4wheelers and driving out and shooting up some folks and then returning to the 'Peace Fest' and NOT expecting to be targeted with gun fire.
I don't mind having an event but lets let everyone know about it at the START of the map, make sure it's announced on the screen, VOIP (if possible) and mumble. Sure your going to have some folks leave, but it is better than playing 1 - 2 hours on a map then learning that there is something else going on.

**Celestial1** · 12-27-2009, 03:43 PM

Let me lay down what actually happened, since no one seems to know and start pointing fingers everywhere.

You want to know who was the mastermind behind this peace-fest? Fuzzhead. He decided, because the server was winding down and it was late at night, and around christmas time, that his present would be spawning a bunch of ATVs.
You know who stopped the peace-fest? Cougar, after he saw that there was a post from a guy named Brettwad on the forums complaining. Because he's doing his job as an admin; No admin condoned or encouraged the activity, and cougar came in to stop it to appease your complaint.

No admin or TG-authority is to be blamed for the act. It was a bunch of players, at 1:30 in the morning, when most people are sleeping or going to sleep soon, on a server that was going to die soon anyway (it was 17-17 for most of the round anyway, we only lost about 4 and it was down to 15-15, maybe even 14-14), and Fuzzhead wanted to let everyone play ATV Bumper Cars. So, we did, because we were enjoying ourselves instead.

The server didn't die until Cougar changed the map to stop the "event" (at your request), where it changed to Fools Road and promptly dropped to 1/64 players (though partly due to a mass crash to desktop error, most of us were not relishing the idea of playing that map at 2:00 am).

It was a little holiday fun, at godawful hours of the morning, and no one is responsible but all of the players who were partaking in the ATV races (which, again, was pretty much the entire server at that hour of the night), no TG admins.

The whole idea wasn't even convened until Fuzzhead came on and suggested it about half-way through the round as it was. Fuzzhead is NOT a TG admin, and does NOT have any special admin abilities for our server, but there are DEV commands in the game that are specifically there for this kind of thing, to just mess about and have some fun. Lighten up, come enjoy the bumper cars, I promise you it's not as bad as you think it is.

**Golgo13** · 12-27-2009, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Taip3n

Even better - Being in Berlin and logging on to do it. But I digress

Not quite Berlin, Cologne XD, but 0:00 pm est is like 7 am here or something. World peace will have to wait for me to get up at 10

Originally Posted by ankyle62

hardly worth bitching about.

it all depends on your hormonal condition.

**brettwad** · 12-27-2009, 04:26 PM

I did not request a stop to the event. Maybe the title to my post was inappropriate
All I request is that we tell all people playing what is going on!!
My squad slogged it's way across that map 3 times, last one on foot to find out there was a gathering on the ice field. We took shots from down there and I decided that we should return fire. We get blasted off the peak by armor and while respawning one of the TG'ers basically tells me I will be thrown off the server if I fire into that area again (no expanation just statement). I respawn at the base with my entire squad, the same TG'er then respawns at the base and drives a troop carrier up to me honking the horn, meanwhile the other 5 guys in my squad are debating why they should stay on the server. I told them there was an activity going on that did not have to do with PR per se, a 'Peace Fest'? (they asked what it was, I did not know). We all left for other servers.
I didn't mean to be a wet blanket on your activities, it would have been great to know what was going on and I would have participated. I was in Mumble (the only one in my channel at the end). There was really no communication, I would have told the members of my squad what was going on and invited them if I had known.
Sorry for shutting you guys down. Was NOT my intention. I was frustrated and did not have answers when asked.

**fuzzhead** · 12-27-2009, 04:42 PM

brett sorry about your bad experience, was just a bit of holiday festivity before the server died out, which it was well on its way before any of this had happened.

The main thing is that the server was doing quite well (62/64) on the previous map, then when switching to op snow storm, it dropped to 24/64, seems like alot of players still dont have the map installed or know where to get it...

So we played the map as a standard round for majority of it, then we got alot of complaining in chat about map change, when is it gonna end, how many tickets you got left, etc etc.

So some guys asking for us to do something different/fun for holidays, so we have some ATV races

we announced in global chat many times, E6k5 was peace summit, and after some initial period of killing each other and not trusting one another, eventually both the GB and PLA had built firebases right near each other in the peace summit and we were somewhat peacful, and got on our ATVs and drove around.

Didnt realize would cause alot of upset players on here, my apologies I wont attempt something like this again on the server without first organizing it with admins. I think sometimes a random bit of fun for holidays is good for something different, but can understand why it would confuse some people or frustrate them.

**Rtoups** · 12-27-2009, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by brettwad

I did not request a stop to the event. Maybe the title to my post was inappropriate
All I request is that we tell all people playing what is going on!!
My squad slogged it's way across that map 3 times, last one on foot to find out there was a gathering on the ice field. We took shots from down there and I decided that we should return fire.

We repeatedly said on ALL chat "Peace summit at E6k2". I don't know how else you wanted us to explain it.

We get blasted off the peak by armor and while respawning one of the TG'ers basically tells me I will be thrown off the server if I fire into that area again (no expanation just statement).

I never ever told you that you would be thrown off the server. I said that we were having a cease fire in that area, and I was questioning why your squad was firing into it. Of course, I got no answer.

I respawn at the base with my entire squad, the same TG'er then respawns at the base and drives a troop carrier up to me honking the horn, meanwhile the other 5 guys in my squad are debating why they should stay on the server. I told them there was an activity going on that did not have to do with PR per se, a 'Peace Fest'? (they asked what it was, I did not know). We all left for other servers.

I drove the truck to see if you wanted a ride to said peace summit.

I didn't mean to be a wet blanket on your activities, it would have been great to know what was going on and I would have participated. I was in Mumble (the only one in my channel at the end). There was really no communication, I would have told the members of my squad what was going on and invited them if I had known.
Sorry for shutting you guys down. Was NOT my intention. I was frustrated and did not have answers when asked.

I don't know how else you wanted us to handle it, brett. We said probably 50 times on chat "Peace summit in E6K2" and "Cease fire in E6K2". We even got someone to go commander to tell the entire team. You act like there was zero communication, yet everyone else on mumble was able to figure out there was a peace summit and join the other mumble channel to talk to the other parties involved. I feel like there was definitely a lot of communication going on with the team. I just think YOU were not communicating well. That is why you didn't respond to me when I joined your squad and asked why you were shooting on both friendlies and enemies when we asked multiple times for you to stop.

**brettwad** · 12-27-2009, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rtoups

We repeatedly said on ALL chat "Peace summit at E6k2". I don't know how else you wanted us to explain it.

I never ever told you that you would be thrown off the server. I said that we were having a cease fire in that area, and I was questioning why your squad was firing into it. Of course, I got no answer.

I drove the truck to see if you wanted a ride to said peace summit.

I don't know how else you wanted us to handle it, brett. We said probably 50 times on chat "Peace summit in E6K2" and "Cease fire in E6K2". We even got someone to go commander to tell the entire team. You act like there was zero communication, yet everyone else on mumble was able to figure out there was a peace summit and join the other mumble channel to talk to the other parties involved. I feel like there was definitely a lot of communication going on with the team. I just think YOU were not communicating well. That is why you didn't respond to me when I joined your squad and asked why you were shooting on both friendlies and enemies when we asked multiple times for you to stop.

RToups I heard what you said when you joined the squad, your announcement did not warrant a response.

I did not hear any announcement in VOIP Command or in Mumble Team 1 channel if so I would have asked what was going on.

We said probably 50 times on chat "Peace summit in E6K2" and "Cease fire in E6K2". You did say this, not sure about 50 or not though, I saw the end of it once in chat. I told my squad NOT to fire into that area when we approached the ridge. We were fired upon when we moved along the ridge, from your Peace Summit. I was wounded and so was another in the squad.

Again I apologize for ruining the fun. It will not happen again.

**Randy_Shughart_ClwFL** · 12-27-2009, 07:40 PM

Well, I was disappointed I was unable to make this happen on Christmas Eve / 12 AM Christmas day EST, but I am happy to see that fuzzhead and others were able to get it going a couple days later.

Delta*RandyShugart* · 12-27-2009, 08:01 PM

It was fun, not going to lie. I never experienced anything like it before. There was teamwork as well. For example at the peace summit mtg area fuzzhead was taken down by a sniper, celestial requested a Chinese medic kit, which I as a British player got, revived and healed fuzzhead and retuned the favor for a down chinaman by requesting a crewman kit and giving the medic kit back.

Players were still capping flags and battling it out, I think when the round ended there was a total of 24/27 players and maybe at most there were 34 players on that disconnected before the"peace summit" really took place.

Sorry bretwad if we were a distraction or a nuisance it really wasn't supposed to be that way.

**Paine** · 12-30-2009, 02:52 PM

I just left the server because of a similar situation this morning.

This idea of enforcing group think on the server, at the discretion of whatever regulars feel it is the best thing to do, is against the server primer. I don't care how many people think its a good idea to "not attack so and so", AAS says its capable and I am going to lead my team in capturing that objective. Obviously admins cannot explicitly enforce such a rule, because shocker it is against the rules; what instead happens is someone on my team decides it is ok to tell the enemy about our location and disposition because this groupthink is telling them that is an OK thing to do, With an admin on, using the shout function to tell me that i shouldn't follow the rules, but it is "up to me if i want to play next map".

this contrived semi-democratic ruleset bull**** that turns on when the server is under 30 players is extremely frustrating to me.

If the guys who operate this server think we need a different ruleset for "seeding" then I will concede to their superior experience in these matters. However I believe this morning has shown that the system currently in place leads to a break down in server rule discipline.

**snooggums** · 12-30-2009, 03:01 PM

I agree with Paine that people who continue to play the objectives should not be disparaged for doing so. The person who revealed their position should be reported and admins should enforce game play over side fun.

Any agreements between players should be between players and one person who doesn't agree with a player agreement, but is following the server rules, is in the right no matter what the population is (barring special events).

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