Originally Posted by msdz

Anyway, even though I have been playing in TG's PR server for awhile now I also feel like the TG tag is not right for me. Thought maybe there should be a way for TG to show who the admins were, the SM, the regulars(such as myself) and of course the irregulars already have their own tag. maybe cjust come up with the different ways to show who and to what degree they are involved with TG by the tags would be nice, plenty of times I have seen someone asking so & so to kick/ban someone just because they were wearing the TG tags, that would be solved if different tags were worn by these people. Just another one of my .02, hope no one gets offended with the thought.

I understand what you're saying MSDZ, and I can see where it might be frustrating to some, but it's really quite simple.

TG is a community. Some games allow for certain things to differentiate admins from sm's from regulars from strangers. Some dont. BF2 and Natural Selection are great examples of this. These games are two of the biggest titles that TG hosts. On the NS servers, you can clearly differentiate the admins from the SM's and so on because of little icons next to their names on the scoreboard. BF2, unfortunately, doesnt give this option.

Now the reason we all wear the same tag (with the notable exception of in-house squads, but i'll cover that in a moment), is because we all belong to the same community. Whether or not you realize it, once you decide to wear the TG tag, you're agreeing to certain things:
(a short list)
∙you agree to play by and uphold the TG rules, SOP's and guidelines.
∙you agree to embody and promote the TG spirit.
∙you agree to do your share for the community.

the last part is the part in focus. I'm sure everyone around here who is an active member of the forums can name at least one, if not multiple, BF2 admins, just from the bars under their forum name. as such, if any of us are on the server and someone asks us to try and solve a problem, we know who to talk to. we know that we can jump on teamspeak and ask for assistance. we know we can jump on the forums real quick and send up the proverbial "bat signal". the point is, theres no need to differentiate between us because regardless of our power-status, we all share the responsibility of keeping TG the way we want it to be.

that being said, the only reason you'll ever see any amended TG tags is for in-house squads, and thats something that's simply done out of pride. most in-house squads require an invitation, and it's an honor to be invited to join one, so it goes without saying that any member would be proud to wear the addition to his tag.

lastly, a good reason that the TG tag is universal is so that our admin staff doesnt have to spend ALL of their time policing and can actually play. A good example of this is earlier tonight on Mao Valley (i think thats the map), someone asked if admins were on and Santa responded to the call. he then was hit with a barrage of random questions about the map rotation, what maps were next, when certain maps were coming up, etc. this went on for 5 minutes. now, this is ok once in a while, but imagine being in an admin's shoes and this happens to you ALL the time because you're instantly identifiable as an admin. how much fun do you think you'd have playing? also, many of our admins are members of in-house squads, and BF2/2142/1942 tags have size limitations, which means that having a tag that said (as an example) |TG-7th-Admin| wouldnt work just because it's too long.

I dont think anyone could get offended by what you said MSDZ, and believe me, i'm sure it's something that was considered in the past. But we do things the way we do them because it works, and works well, which is part of the reason that you're here! (i'm sure if we did a bad job, you wouldnt have stuck around to give us your two cents.) Although i'd like to see as many people as I can wearing the TG tag, it's not for everyone. But that doesnt mean that you cant take up the torch as part of this community. Lots of people from clans and other gaming groups and even just individuals have come to call TG home and dont wear the tag, but we pay them the same amount of respect that we pay to others who do wear it. Everyone has a say and everyone has the right to help if they want, and it's encouraged but certainly not required.


on a side note, I thought shameless plugs were made out of rubber and plastic or some other material..usually different colors too from what i've seen in adult "novelty" stores.
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