Originally Posted by jmaker

Ok first of all, you are contradicting yourself here. Either you did witness HAT being used on infantry or you didn't? And you even claim you did as well. Since when is using HAT to snipe a sniper acceptable?

Ok, As I was one of two HAT on Qwaii before we got Estate and in the squad taking Fishing Flag. I was very concerned with all the ingame and forum complaints about AT sniping and such. I take opposing side concerns seriously and wondered if they were talking about me or my squad. I ingame texted that I was one of the HAT guys so people could identify me. I invite all inquiries if you were invloved.

I have carefully reviewed the Battlerecorder and with the possible exception of my 3 shots noted above by jmaker, our two HAT users made no shots at infrantry against the rules or spirit of TG.

In fact I would go so far as to say anyone complaining about shots into Fishing is all wet.

The other HAT guy was Sanada. He made the first kills in Fishing. He targeted vehicles the entire time he had the AT kits. A good fast shot he did miss a few, but always came back till he was sure the vehicle was down. Taking a total of 2 shots on dead vehicle carcasses that were hidden behind obstructions.


The only time he ever shot at infrantry was at the very begining when 2 Chinese were behind the Fishing boathouse. They had winged him with a support 50 cal. He healed and came back to take 2 shots. the first went in the water in front of the boat, the second he slipped under the boathouse and hit the boat. It looks like he thought they were using the boats 50 cal, as he targeted the boat and not the infrantry.

You folks who think something wrong was going on should view the Battle Recorder file from Sanada's perpective. It is a textbook example of proper Tactical Gamer vehicle oriented HAT usage. The amount of vehicle damage he does with fast well aimed shots is stunning. He also makes great use of the pistol at close range to fend off infrantry.

He makes no shots that are in anyway improper for a TG server. If you pause the game when he shoots and fly along the rocket path , it is so clear what he is shooting at that there can be no doubt of good TG play.

6\17\2007 Qwaii at about 1935. Watch Sanada from the beginning till he loses the HAT kit. Then switch to watch me and my HAT while I target tanks and dislodge the aforementioned sniper/infrantry.

As for myself jmaker, I make no apologies for the 3 shots I took on infrantry. All were carefully considered and nessecary. Done in pursuit of targeting vehicles or dislodging an enemy shooting at my squad from an entrencehd position. Positions my squad had trouble overrunning. My shots were coordinated with their advance.

In fact I had many more entrenched infrantry targets that I chose not to shoot at. As I wanted to stay hidden for the oppertunity to take out the tank and APC as they moved up. I should have taken more shots as the battlerecorder confirmed my suspicions that the Chinese had a RP just south of the Fishing Village. An RP I could have taken down with splash from a HAT if I had been more willing to take shots on entrenched infrantry.

As for the language of the SOP,

The primary purpose of the HAT is for use against heavily armored vehicles (e.g. tank, APC). These kits / projectiles are considerably more expensive and less available than their LAT counterpart. Players carrying the HAT should focus solely on vehicles.

I see no violation in taking out snipers aiming at me that prevent me from getting into position to take out the tank. That's you EBODude, thanks for listening to my explination .

Nor is it bad TG gameplay to make judicious use of AT to dislodge dug in infrantry in buildings or entrenchments who are shooting at your squadmates/ APC trying to take the flag zone.


All in all I am with Big GaayAl, it was a fun night and a well played game. I think you were in the chopper when I took it down. Sorry about that mate, but rest assured that on playback you sure went down in a blaze of glory.