Originally Posted by Amdak

The reason that its such a problem is that nothing on the ground can possibly be effective for taking out jets. If the ground units had something to deal with the aircraft it would be less of an issue, when they got nothing to deal with aircraft the server does empty because they dont have anything worth trying.




Dont you think that if the 4 AA vehicles could actually hit the aircraft without having it dive at them to destroy them, just maybe, the aircraft would have to worry about that lock warning and fly in a way that would make spotting infantry and vehicles harder for the pilot?

It's an engine limitation, there are only a few tweaks they can mess with..

1) make the AAA missiles faster
2) allow the missiles to track/lock at a farther range
3) take away/severely limit the jets ECM and do not allow flares to be reloaded.
4) make the jets slower

Back for Vanilla we attempted to tweak the AAA to be more effective, and we only got 1 end of the spectrum or the other. Either they were to accurate making air pointless, or they were as they currently are, worthless. You can't just wish for something and it happens, there are engine limitations and the AAA falls under one of them. The best remedy was to make the guns very powerful vs. jet's/helo's, but then they were way the hell to powerful vs. land targets.

I guess youre right, its like how ground superiority would mean that it should be just fine to sit in the enemy main base the entire round and kill anyone that spawns. Its their fault that they allowed you to gain superiority.

Ground superiority means you control the ground, and thus the flags. Last time I checked, on Kashan once you hold all the flags except the enemy UCB, you attack that one do you not? Since you cannot cap CP's from the air, it is kind of pointless to try and compare the two, isn't it?

If the AA vehicles had AA missiles that actually worked, with their range in PR it would be very easy to create an area in the sky of 1-2 kilometers where any jet that attempts to pass low in that area gets shot down.

covered this already

All you seem to focus about is countering air units with air units, when the only effective way to get rid of the enemy aircraft is with aircraft then yes rounds will be 1 sided. But when its also effective to use ground units against aircraft rounds will be less 1 sided when a team could afford using a single tank as bait for the SU25/A10 and then just spam it with missiles from the AA, resulting in 20 minutes of NOT having to worry about getting hit from the air.

Since it wont ever be effective to use ground to defend vs. jet's, that's why they stink and shouldn't be in a pubbie game like PR.