10 years of Rainbow Six...

**Magnum50** · 07-07-2008, 09:07 AM

Shameless self promotion... was really hoping Tactical Gamer would of done something like this, because i remember ALOT of great tactical action with the earlier versions...

Completed article that just went up this AM, if your a fan of the series...let me know if there are any mistakes or missing information... hard to remember every game for ten years, lol...

http://www.simhq.com/_land3/land_105a.html

Evo<^|SiNz|^> · 07-07-2008, 11:16 AM

Great write-up, Mag. I like your writing style and I share your disdain for Ubisoft!

My most recent experience with the series was R6:V on the 360, but it didn't pull me in. It seemed like an action shooter wearing the clothes of a tactical shooter, so I couldn't convince myself that anything "tactical" I was doing was any better for me than if I just went run-and-gun. If I want to play an action shooter, I enjoy Call of Duty games more. They are more honestly action shooters, and I guess I just don't come into it with the expectation of it being anything more.

**tHa_KhAn** · 07-11-2008, 09:55 AM

Another good article...thanks for the post. I still remember trying to get the first Rainbow on the PC installed. The Vegas series on 360 has been amazing, I can't wait for more.

Zaiden · 07-15-2008, 04:40 AM

I agree, good article. I never had the chance to play the previous Rainbow Six games, but I can understand why you don't like Vegas. It's sad to have the series you love become something different.

Jorge.PT · 07-15-2008, 08:37 AM

Very nice article.

I played and loved the first two games, rainbowsix and rogue spear, dam good times i had playing online in the microsof gamming zone lobies.... and then ubisoft just f**** it up!!!!

After those two, i buyed the first vegas (no demo

), and you know what? 3 weeks later i sold it to a friend for a couple of beers!

Besides the Silent Hunter series, i'm not buying any other ubish*** games.

EDIT: Don't remmenber if in the first was possible, but in rogue spear you could play via gamespy.

**Squinty** · 07-19-2008, 03:59 PM

Nice stroll down memory lane. Enjoyed Rouge Spear for years; even fired it back up a year ago and played coop with my nephew. Had high hopes for Raven Shield and was frustrated by the lack of a SDK limiting what users could mod into the game. I tried Lockdown and was so disappointed I haven't bought a Rainbow Six game since.

Calvin · 07-20-2008, 02:50 PM

And great memories indeed, I can't believe how ugly the first one was, it's not how i recalled it!

**Pfeil22** · 09-02-2008, 02:22 PM

I am not sure how this thread slipped by me, but it’s worth another nod for anyone else that might have missed it. A fantastic retrospect, Magnum!

Oddly enough, I recently installed all the old titles from the original to Rogue Spear and had a blast wandering down Memory Lane. Just browsing the manuals was enough to make me realize just how much Ubisoft has changed the series. Speaking of manuals, the old ones were great and included a lot of material. They make the thin booklets included with the Xbox 360 version look like a joke.

It might be time to fire up Covert Ops Essentials and see how Tom Clancy’s version of counterterrorism holds up today.

**Beinseth** · 09-07-2008, 12:35 PM

God, I remember the first time I played R6 RS. I hoped onto a server and was instantly peeved with how fast I died and how long I had to wait to rejoin the action just to die instantly again. Then a few months later I played it again at a friends LAN party and fell in love with the R6 series. The last time I played a R6 title was briefly with R6: Vegas. Really didnt care for it at all. I miss the old RVS and Rogue Spear days. So many hours spent creeping and camping noobs. And yes, I said camping. Had my canvas tent and fire wood as a permanent part of my kit.

**Clodhopper** · 09-10-2008, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pfeil22

They make the thin booklets included with the Xbox 360 version look like a joke.

They ARE a joke.
Think about it; The game manuals these days hold more information on the story than they do about the actual gameplay, where as the game itself is used to introduce you to the gameplay VIA tutorial levels, rather than introducing the player to the story

Mech__Warrior · 09-14-2008, 11:09 PM

Good write-up Magnum. My friend and I still play Rainbow Six 3 on the Gamecube. I played the first Rainbow Six with my cousin, but everything was so crammed together that I couldn't tell what side of the screen was mine.

**Beinseth** · 09-20-2008, 11:15 AM

I was thinking back to my early days of Rogue Spear and Black Thorn last night. Remembering the ladders and the guys I gamed with. Then it hit me about Vegas. Its not a sim anymore. Its a run n gun just like 2142 or CS:S. The days of it being a true Tact:FPS are long gone and some might claim that it died when Raven Shield was released. Just my thoughts.

07-07-2008, 09:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
Magnum50 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Naples, Florida USA Age: 42 Posts: 3,866	10 years of Rainbow Six... Shameless self promotion... was really hoping Tactical Gamer would of done something like this, because i remember ALOT of great tactical action with the earlier versions... Completed article that just went up this AM, if your a fan of the series...let me know if there are any mistakes or missing information... hard to remember every game for ten years, lol... http://www.simhq.com/_land3/land_105a.html __________________ Magnum www.gettacticaldammit.com

07-07-2008, 11:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
Evo<^\|SiNz\|^> Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Age: 27 Posts: 1,160	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... Great write-up, Mag. I like your writing style and I share your disdain for Ubisoft! My most recent experience with the series was R6:V on the 360, but it didn't pull me in. It seemed like an action shooter wearing the clothes of a tactical shooter, so I couldn't convince myself that anything "tactical" I was doing was any better for me than if I just went run-and-gun. If I want to play an action shooter, I enjoy Call of Duty games more. They are more honestly action shooters, and I guess I just don't come into it with the expectation of it being anything more. __________________ "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - Attributed to General George Patton, Jr.

07-11-2008, 09:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
tHa_KhAn Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Gunshine State Age: 27 Posts: 2,104	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... Another good article...thanks for the post. I still remember trying to get the first Rainbow on the PC installed. The Vegas series on 360 has been amazing, I can't wait for more. __________________

07-15-2008, 04:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
Zaiden Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... I agree, good article. I never had the chance to play the previous Rainbow Six games, but I can understand why you don't like Vegas. It's sad to have the series you love become something different.

07-15-2008, 08:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jorge.PT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Portugal Age: 26 Posts: 138	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... Very nice article. I played and loved the first two games, rainbowsix and rogue spear, dam good times i had playing online in the microsof gamming zone lobies.... and then ubisoft just f** it up!!!! After those two, i buyed the first vegas (no demo ), and you know what? 3 weeks later i sold it to a friend for a couple of beers! Besides the Silent Hunter series, i'm not buying any other ubish* games. EDIT: Don't remmenber if in the first was possible, but in rogue spear you could play via gamespy. Last edited by Jorge.PT; 07-15-2008 at 08:53 AM.

07-19-2008, 03:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Squinty Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 269	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... Nice stroll down memory lane. Enjoyed Rouge Spear for years; even fired it back up a year ago and played coop with my nephew. Had high hopes for Raven Shield and was frustrated by the lack of a SDK limiting what users could mod into the game. I tried Lockdown and was so disappointed I haven't bought a Rainbow Six game since. __________________

07-20-2008, 02:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Calvin Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 22 Posts: 499	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... And great memories indeed, I can't believe how ugly the first one was, it's not how i recalled it! __________________ \|TG-33rd\|Calvin

09-02-2008, 02:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Pfeil22 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Massachusetts, US Age: 35 Posts: 1,874	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... I am not sure how this thread slipped by me, but it’s worth another nod for anyone else that might have missed it. A fantastic retrospect, Magnum! Oddly enough, I recently installed all the old titles from the original to Rogue Spear and had a blast wandering down Memory Lane. Just browsing the manuals was enough to make me realize just how much Ubisoft has changed the series. Speaking of manuals, the old ones were great and included a lot of material. They make the thin booklets included with the Xbox 360 version look like a joke. It might be time to fire up Covert Ops Essentials and see how Tom Clancy’s version of counterterrorism holds up today.

09-07-2008, 12:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Beinseth Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Leavenworth, Ks Age: 34 Posts: 147	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... God, I remember the first time I played R6 RS. I hoped onto a server and was instantly peeved with how fast I died and how long I had to wait to rejoin the action just to die instantly again. Then a few months later I played it again at a friends LAN party and fell in love with the R6 series. The last time I played a R6 title was briefly with R6: Vegas. Really didnt care for it at all. I miss the old RVS and Rogue Spear days. So many hours spent creeping and camping noobs. And yes, I said camping. Had my canvas tent and fire wood as a permanent part of my kit.

09-14-2008, 11:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mech__Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Muskegon, MI Age: 17 Posts: 766	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... Good write-up Magnum. My friend and I still play Rainbow Six 3 on the Gamecube. I played the first Rainbow Six with my cousin, but everything was so crammed together that I couldn't tell what side of the screen was mine. __________________

09-20-2008, 11:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
Beinseth Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Leavenworth, Ks Age: 34 Posts: 147	Re: 10 years of Rainbow Six... I was thinking back to my early days of Rogue Spear and Black Thorn last night. Remembering the ladders and the guys I gamed with. Then it hit me about Vegas. Its not a sim anymore. Its a run n gun just like 2142 or CS:S. The days of it being a true Tact:FPS are long gone and some might claim that it died when Raven Shield was released. Just my thoughts. __________________ We are Recruiting! Join the 101st! TG Gentleman's Agreement

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