Welcome to Tactical Gamer

+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 14 of 14
Discussion: Red Orchestra: Ostfront / Red Orchestra - Tactics and Mission Discussion - The Commander - When choosing your player class in Red Orchestra, it's important to know what you're getting
  1. #1

    Strag's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Age
    38
    Posts
    4,939

    Who's the Commander?

    When choosing your player class in Red Orchestra, it's important to know what you're getting into. For riflemen, assault troops, machinegunners, sappers, and tank crewmen, the job at hand is fairly obvious. For the Commander classes, however, there are more things to consider.

    Who's the Commander?
    It is important to know exactly which classes are the Commander classes. There are a total of two Commander classes available for each team:

    - Axis: Gruppenführer (Overall Commander) and Panzerführer (Armor Commander)

    - Allies: Komandir otdeleniya (Overall Commander) and Komandir tanka (Armor Commander)

    Both Commander classes aren't necessarily available on a given map, and this is because one of the Commander classes -- the Armor Commander -- is specific to armor. As such, the Armor Commander class will only appear on maps that involve tanks. The Overall Commander class, however, appears on all maps. Typically, there can be only one or two of each type of Commander class per team.

    The only difference between the Overall Commander class and the Armor Commander class is that the Armor Commander can get in tanks, but the Overall Commander cannot. Other than that one key difference, the two Commander classes are the same.


    What does the Commander do?
    Speaking strictly in terms of the game, Commander classes have two "special" abilities:

    - set Rally points
    To do this, a Commander must open his map and click on a map location with his mouse, whereupon a small red or black flag will appear at that location on his map. This little flag is a Rally point, and it appears on the maps of every other player on the team. A Rally point can be used as a gathering point for massing troops, or perhaps as a reference point for coordinating a maneuver. It is simply a tool that a Commander can use to organize his team. A Commander can place only one Rally point on his map at a time; if he creates a new Rally point, the existing one is removed.

    - spot and call artillery strikes
    To do this, a Commander must look through his binoculars at the place where he would like artillery to land, and then press his Primary Fire key to "mark" the location. Again, artillery spots are not made by using the map, but rather by looking through the binoculars. When an artillery spot has been made, a small "puff of smoke" icon will appear on the Commander's map, indicating exactly where the artillery will land. If the spotted location is not correct, the Commander can use his binoculars to refine where the artillery will hit, adjusting until the desired location is spotted.

    Once the desired location is spotted, a Commander must go to an artillery radio to make his call for artillery. These radios are present only on certain levels, and are represented on the map as small, red, rectangular icons with white dots in them. In the game, an artillery radio appears as a green, box-shaped field radio, usually sitting on a table. A Commander must get within a few feet of an artillery radio, press his Use key, and then wait for a response from the artillery crew. The artillery crew's response will indicate whether or not an artillery strike is available, and how many remaining artillery strikes a Commander may request. Once an artillery request has been made successfully, the artillery guns will fire and the spotted target will receive hits.


    Beyond the "special" abilities of placing Rally points and calling for artillery, the Commander is responsible for organizing his team and implementing strategy. Usually the Overall Commander is responsible for devising the team's strategy, with the Armor Commander assisting and handling the coordination of tanks.

    Hopefully this will clear up some of the questions about the Commander classes. Please keep in mind your abilities and responsiblities if you choose to play as a Commander. Your team is counting on you!

  2.  
  3. #2

    Wyzcrak's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Memphis, TN
    Posts
    14,267

    Re: Who's the Commander?

    Great contribution, Strag! Well done!

    Many thanks.
    Steam Community? Add me. | Join #tacticalgamer | Search Results Legend | New Posts Forum Filter | Postbox Toggle | Live Thread Review | One Line Results | Free Remote, Encrypted Backup

    Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.

  4.  
  5. #3

    Downtown1's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    61

    Re: Who's the Commander?

    Just wanted to note that anyone can order a barrage using the radio once the beacon is placed.

  6.  

     
  7. #4

    Leonidas's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    District of Columbia, U.S.A
    Age
    21
    Posts
    493

    Re: Who's the Commander?

    Quote Originally Posted by Downtown1
    Just wanted to note that anyone can order a barrage using the radio once the beacon is placed.

    Really? I keep hearing that only the person who marked the arty target can call it.
    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling that thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety is a miserable creature, who has no chance at being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. -- John Stuart Mill--

    "O xein angellein lakedaimoniois hoti tede keimetha tois keinon rhemasi peithomenoi"- Monument, Thermopylae

  8.  
  9. #5

    Strag's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Age
    38
    Posts
    4,939

    Re: Who's the Commander?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leonidas
    Really? I keep hearing that only the person who marked the arty target can call it.
    Yeah, I've tried this several times as well, but haven't been able to get it to work. So far, I've only been able to call in artillery strikes if I placed the marker, and the same has been true of other people playing as Commander. If anyone can get this to work with multiple people, please share!

  10.  
  11. #6

    dawolf's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Vienna, Austria
    Age
    33
    Posts
    1,373

    Re: Who's the Commander?

    I noticed you can set a rally point by using alt-fire (right click) with your binoculars in your hands on your current location.
    TG-E1st TacticalGamer European Division | Watch this (pretty old) video to find out what TG is all about



    A Tactical Gamer since 2005

  12.  

     
  13. #7


    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Guildford, UK
    Age
    32
    Posts
    4,257

    Re: Who's the Commander?

    B and I tried this last night where I set the point and he tried to call it in, and it didn't work. Maybe it means that if you have both commanders one can set the arty point and the other can order it. Thtat way your tank commander could go forward and spot, and your main commander could co-ordinate from the back.

  14.  
  15. #8

    Strag's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Age
    38
    Posts
    4,939

    The Commander

    I bet you're right, Wulfyn. If anyone confirms this, please post here.

  16.  
  17. #9


    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Oklahoma City, OK
    Age
    32
    Posts
    998

    Re: The Commander

    When tested in beta, this still didn't work. You have to call in your own artillery.
    It is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9/NIV

  18.  

     
  19. #10


    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    4

    Re: The Commander

    There was a thread about this is the redorchestragame.com forums -- the official game manual available from that website claims that anyone can call arty once the commander has set the coordinates. It just doesn't seem to actually work for anyone! Perhaps it's a bug?

  20.  
  21. #11


    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Oklahoma City, OK
    Age
    32
    Posts
    998

    Re: The Commander

    No, the manual is wrong. I talked with a developer about the issue.
    It is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9/NIV

  22.  
  23. #12

    |Pz505|Heinz's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    New Yawk, USA
    Posts
    117

    Re: The Commander

    dumb question?... can the Panzer Commander call in a strike as well?

  24.  

     
  25. #13

    Strag's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Age
    38
    Posts
    4,939

    Re: The Commander

    Quote Originally Posted by |Pz505|Heinz
    ... can the Panzer Commander call in a strike as well?
    Yes, he can, and it's very useful!

  26.  
  27. #14

    |Pz505|Heinz's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    New Yawk, USA
    Posts
    117

    Re: The Commander

    Quote Originally Posted by Strag
    Yes, he can, and it's very useful!
    nice!! "Drek sau!"

  28.  

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts


  
 

Back to top