Re: system crash at launch

**IceCold** · 04-14-2006, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by CingularDuality

This guy seems to be on the ball, and evidently Valve has contacted him to use his fix in their next patch.

http://www.redorchestragame.com/foru...?t=5090&page=4

Did this work for anyone here? I'm still unable to play this game, and would like to know if anyone here has tried it successfully.

**|Pz505|Heinz** · 04-17-2006, 04:30 PM

re Zone Alarm from someone on the RO boards who seems to understand the issues:

"And the problems with ZoneAlarm exemplify why many of us in the IT industry steer our clients AWAY from that app, it has been a pain in the butt for years before RO came along, I've seen ZA completely mess up DNS resolving on a system or just cause the odd website to become unreachable due to DNS lookups gone wrong. Uninstall ZA and suddenly things work great. Basically ZA is garbage. Get a cheap hardware router and be done with it, you don't need a software firewall when you are behind a hardware router. One less app running and more resources left for the actual programs you use."

imagine that.

**CingularDuality** · 04-18-2006, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by |Pz505|Heinz

re Zone Alarm from someone on the RO boards who seems to understand the issues:

"And the problems with ZoneAlarm exemplify why many of us in the IT industry steer our clients AWAY from that app, it has been a pain in the butt for years before RO came along, I've seen ZA completely mess up DNS resolving on a system or just cause the odd website to become unreachable due to DNS lookups gone wrong. Uninstall ZA and suddenly things work great. Basically ZA is garbage. Get a cheap hardware router and be done with it, you don't need a software firewall when you are behind a hardware router. One less app running and more resources left for the actual programs you use."

imagine that.

What a load of crap. ZoneAlarm is outstanding at what it's designed to do. In fact, for most people, it'll work better than a hardware firewall, as most people probably don't have the knowledge or experience to maintain one.

Look, if someone "in the IT industry" is setting up a network, I sure hope to hell that he's not using ZoneAlarm to protect the network. But for a home user, it's quite effective.

Oh, and it's used more than any other personal firewall and comes recommended by many sources much more credible than one guy "in the IT industry".

I don't mean to jump all over you, Heinz, but I'm heated over the way TripWire has handled this. TripWire has tried to blame everyone else for their mistakes, instead of simply apologizing and letting people know that they're working on it.

Removing ZoneAlarm is NOT a bug fix.

**|Pz505|Heinz** · 04-18-2006, 10:45 AM

well, I guess that guy is wrong then. you must be right. how could you not be?

**CingularDuality** · 04-18-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by |Pz505|Heinz

well, I guess that guy is wrong then. you must be right. how could you not be?

Glad you've seen the light.

Seriously, it doesn't matter how good of a choice ZoneAlarm is as a firewall. The fact is that millions of people use it all across the world. No other software firewall (perhaps any firewall?) is more used. TripWire should have seen and addressed this issue before releasing the game.

**Gunrack** · 04-18-2006, 05:06 PM

I was having the same problems, and this fixed it for me (I use the free version of ZoneAlarm): http://www.redorchestragame.com/foru...ead.php?t=6017

You're basically adding a parameter (-clientbeta fs) to the command line of steam, and running steam manually (clicking the desktop icon) instead of running it at start up. Also, make sure to launch RO from steam instead of the RO short cut you may have on your desktop.

**Strag** · 06-16-2006, 04:34 PM

A fix for the ZoneAlarm issue has been released by Zonelabs; you can read more about it on the main page of the Red Orchestra website.

**Trooper** · 06-16-2006, 05:18 PM

Where am i?..this must be the lost catacombs of TG, but this all looks so familiar

**Faultline** · 06-18-2006, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Strag

A fix for the ZoneAlarm issue has been released by Zonelabs; you can read more about it on the main page of the Red Orchestra website.

Thanks for the heads up. Downloading now!

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