Ok, why do YOU hate the cops... - Page 24

**Magnum50** · 07-09-2008, 06:46 PM

well it's obvious you can't or won't see the true picture, you are dead set that your opinion is correct and right, when I try and explain, you turn it back into another argument... I gave you a chance to get real answers you don't want them, so I'm done with you on this.

Drizzid · 07-09-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chris934

Another list seems appropriate

1 "Most cops do not want to arrest to much, tons of paperwork, and tons of court, hell we try and ****can more then arrest. A kid with a bag of weed, funny, I sure don't want that arrest, alot of paperwork, got to baby sit them for hours, have to contact parents, court, probation hearings etc etc... a pain..." But you said before that you enjoyed "busting heads" and chasing criminals and arresting them. Why do you change your opinion. Is it because my argument was too awsome maybe?

2."HUH? Cops are human, if theres respect then good chance of a warning, If dis-respectful then a citation or arrest... your choice, and mine... you decide how you want the experience to go." You didnt even answer my question. I want to know who gets to make the standard of respect. and if its you then why?

3."if your saying no then theres 2 reasons, 1) you got something to hide, or 2) It's your right... 20 plus years as a LEO has taught me 95% of the time it's number 1... we play the odds." So because you have a hunch i dont have any rights? it seems to be a typical response of police to think that they decide when laws and rights apply and when they dont.

4."It isn't the police's job to uphold the constitution. It is the police's job to protect and serve the community and the people within that community. Police officers are the law enforcers not the law makers. They put their lives on the line to uphold those laws."
ITs the job of the police to uphold the law and the constitution is the highest form of law. If we dont care how the police do there jobs then why dont we just have a dictatorship?

Im not trying to piss people off to much so dont take offense. but this is probably the only chance ill have to tell a cop what i think without getting tazered or arrested.

1. Magnum isn't changing his opinion he is telling you that if a cop CAN avoid arresting someone then that is what they WOULD rather do because it does add a lot of work for them to do and no cop wants to arrest anyone towards the end of their shift especially. Magnum is just telling you the truth of what he does.

2. When you are pulled over or questioned by an officer the only way he can determine what kind of person you are is by obtaining information, reading body language and by the manner in which you handle yourself during the questioning. So if you want to know why a cop dictates the standard of respect as you call it, it is because that is part of their job. A police officer has to show that he is in control of any situation cause if he shows any sign of weakness that could cost him his life.

3. Your statement on this subject is so far off base it is ridicules so no point responding to it.

4. The constitution is used in making laws and determining if existing laws are constitutional or not. Police officers do NOT make laws they enforce those laws that are made by politicians and citizens who vote for those laws. There is a big difference!!

But as Magnum has said some people, no matter what, will never change their opinion of a police officer no matter what facts are presented to them.

Chris you should go on a ride a long with an officer in your local precinct and talk to them personally and ask that officer questions and who knows you might change your opinion some day.

chris934 · 07-10-2008, 01:36 AM

.............k...............

I think its interesting that the only responses i got this time were things like "Are you a cop? if not, then don't act that you know what cops want and don't want. You probably are pissed that cop broke up your keg party you were having in the woods this fourth of july." or this one that i thought was particularly mature "Chris, maybe you are at the age where "i hate everyone including my parents"". I have always found that when a person doest have a leg to stand on in an argument they will resort to petty remarks and stupid assumtions. Just because some of you had no idea what you were talking about when you were 19 doesnt mean we are all stupid.

I dont understand why you would get so mad a someone for saying they hate cops when the name of the thread makes the assumption that anyone reading it does. I was just giving you what you wanted. When you make stupid assumptions you should expect someone to pull your chain.
Now on to Drizzid who even though before he claimed he respected my opinions he had to attack them again so we will go point by point.

1. "1. Magnum isn't changing his opinion he is telling you that if a cop CAN avoid arresting someone then that is what they WOULD rather do because it does add a lot of work for them to do and no cop wants to arrest anyone towards the end of their shift especially. Magnum is just telling you the truth of what he does." Did you even read what he said? this is what he said the first time "The truth is, I am not a cop to "save lives" as everyone on COPS says, lol, true that is a bonus, and defending the victim is pure satisfaction... but I'm a cop because i like to take criminals to jail, I like to find them, chase them, then arrest them... it's fun..." This is what he said the second time " Most cops do not want to arrest to much, tons of paperwork, and tons of court, hell we try and ****can more then arrest. A kid with a bag of weed, funny, I sure don't want that arrest, alot of paperwork, got to baby sit them for hours, have to contact parents, court, probation hearings etc etc... a pain..." IF you cant see what im talking about then im not sure how much more clear i can be

2. "2. When you are pulled over or questioned by an officer the only way he can determine what kind of person you are is by obtaining information, reading body language and by the manner in which you handle yourself during the questioning. So if you want to know why a cop dictates the standard of respect as you call it, it is because that is part of their job. A police officer has to show that he is in control of any situation cause if he shows any sign of weakness that could cost him his life." They are suppose to be protecting us. but maybe
"Your statement on this subject is so far off base it is ridicules so no point responding to it." hey wow that worked!

3."3. Your statement on this subject is so far off base it is ridicules so no point responding to it." did you even read what i wrote, im not putting any effort into this.

4."4. The constitution is used in making laws and determining if existing laws are constitutional or not. Police officers do NOT make laws they enforce those laws that are made by politicians and citizens who vote for those laws. There is a big difference!!"
IM aware of that i went to the same high school civics classes you did. Its the job of the police to follow the laws as well. Let me repeat that FOLLOW the laws. if you are going to let the police decide what laws apply when then why even bother voting for laws and just let these police make them up

Do you remember when i wrote"The only reason i said "i hate cops" so boldly without saying "but some are ok". Is Because the title of your thread made the assumption that i hated cops i guess i had to go along." For the slow among you that meant that i really dont hate all cops i only said it because of the retarded assumption that the name of the thread made
it says "Ok, why do YOU hate cops" so i guess i had to give a reason

And its funny that a 19 year old who apparently is so mad at the world and his parents (cause its impossible they are dead or anything right morons) could piss you off so much. i am only getting so hostile at this point because instead of having a real debate with me you just attacked my age. way to go im sure your friends at the station are proud.

and dont take me to seriously you guys its all in fun

Drizzid · 07-10-2008, 06:36 AM

It must be nice to be 19yrs old and to know everything already! Your right Chris and everyone else that is twice your age is wrong. We are a bunch of idiots that don't know anything! You have successfully won! There is obviously no way that we might have a clue about what we are talking about.

Maybe you should be a lawyer with all that knowledge you have about how the real world works. Maybe you can prosecute all those bad cops that are out there breaking all those laws.

Oh and don't take me too seriously it's all in fun right.

Delta*RandyShugart* · 07-10-2008, 11:15 AM

Chris,

I apologize if you lost your parents when you are young, and if i hurt you with the comment about you being at the age that you "hate your parents."

I really don't believe that you were just posting to post, or taking the side of disliking law enforcement officials in this thread debate. I also cannot see when you decided to "just have fun with this", make some inane and rude comments towards persons/families of the law enforcement community, especially with this specific line:

"Im not trying to piss people off to much so dont take offense. but this is probably the only chance ill have to tell a cop what i think without getting tazered or arrested."

If you don't particularly enjoy the company of law enforcement officials, that is fine chris it is your right as an Adult and as an Adult citizen in the United States. (yes once you turn 18 in the U.S.A. you are considered an adult, and if you are arrested you will be tried as an adult)
However you have to be ready to accept the rebuttals from other people in this thread concerning this topic, and your examples that you post will be replied to and different examples will be said to those, and yes I was a bit hostile because though I did read your replies from a objective point of view, i also read them from a personal point of view.

are we having fun yet?

Switch · 07-10-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Drizzid

It must be nice to be 19yrs old and to know everything already!

Man I hate that criticism.... kids may be kids, but when they make a valid point that 'adults' don't like it seems like that line is a favorite.

I believe that's almost a direct quote from one of the two Brett Darrow incidents when the 19 year old, calm and collected, asserts his civil rights only to have a bunch of police completely ignore them.

**TheSkudDestroyer** · 07-10-2008, 12:55 PM

OK, short question:

Chris, have you had multiple run in's with the police?

Also - I have a problem with people coming into threads and "just kidding around." That's like the idiot that decided being a complete stark racist was "just funny" and he only did it to get a rouse out of everyone....

Drizzid · 07-10-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Switch

Man I hate that criticism.... kids may be kids, but when they make a valid point that 'adults' don't like it seems like that line is a favorite.

I believe that's almost a direct quote from one of the two Brett Darrow incidents when the 19 year old, calm and collected, asserts his civil rights only to have a bunch of police completely ignore them.

Truth hurts bro!! You may not believe it but I was 19 once and I remember it quite well. I thought I knew everything at that age too when people were trying to explain to me how the real world works and I thought they were wrong. Switch I have no doubts that you are a very intelligent person and I am sure you will probably do some great things in your future but as you get older you learn some pretty hard lessons in life that change you and you might not believe this but one day you may vary well be saying exactly the same things we are saying in this thread. When you are young you think you are indestructible and you think you have something to prove and there is nothing wrong with that but where the mistake is made is that there are people who have been there and done that and they might just know a thing or two that you don't and when you don't at least take their advice into consideration is what can lead to some costly mistakes in your future. So I wish both of you good luck in life cause believe it or not your gonna need it cause everyone needs a lot of luck to be successful in life

Switch · 07-10-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Drizzid

Truth hurts bro!! You may not believe it but I was 19 once and I remember it quite well. I thought I knew everything at that age too when people were trying to explain to me how the real world works and I thought they were wrong. Switch I have no doubts that you are a very intelligent person and I am sure you will probably do some great things in your future but as you get older you learn some pretty hard lessons in life that change you and you might not believe this but one day you may vary well be saying exactly the same things we are saying in this thread. When you are young you think you are indestructible and you think you have something to prove and there is nothing wrong with that but where the mistake is made is that there are people who have been there and done that and they might just know a thing or two that you don't and when you don't at least take their advice into consideration is what can lead to some costly mistakes in your future. So I wish both of you good luck in life cause believe it or not your gonna need it cause everyone needs a lot of luck to be successful in life

I'm 24. I have a degree in bio. I work full time (55hr weeks). I'm on my way to grad school. I understand that the youthful view of life is different than that of an older person. I was 19 once too (5 years ago). That doesn't change the fact that even when young, a person can make completely valid points. Too often youth opinions and observations are discounted with some arrogant remark about being young and knowing nothing. Seldom is the youth claiming to know everything. Usually they make a cutting observation about a fact or circumstance that refutes or disparages the behavior of an adult/status quo.

Now I didn't read through what was being argued above, I was just pointing out that I hate that criticism. Its chalked full of the ignorant arrogance that it is used to accuse others of.

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Originally Posted by Drizzid

It isn't the police's job to uphold the constitution. It is the police's job to protect and serve the community and the people within that community. Police officers are the law enforcers not the law makers. They put their lives on the line to uphold those laws. It is every citizens of the USA to uphold the constitution. Unfortunately in the past few years to many people have been using the constitution to try and force their opinions and beliefs by trying to change the constitution to support their beliefs and opinions.

Also, did you bother to read what you wrote before submitting it?
"It isn't the police's job to uphold the constitution.... Police officers are law enforcers not law makers... They put their lives on the lien to uphold those laws..."
There are no higher laws than those written in the constitution. All other laws and rights are derived from the power vested in our constitution. To say the "police are not responsible for upholding the constitution, just the laws" is like saying that "Pilots aren't responsible for landing planes, just flying".

Delta*RandyShugart* · 07-10-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Switch

Its chalked full of the ignorant arrogance that it is used to accuse others of.

read all of what Chris posted, and let me know if any of that falls under your above line from your post. I'm fine with the youth debating and speaking their mind, but when its chalked full of the ignorant arrogance that it is used to accuse others of, that is where i draw my line.

chris934 · 07-10-2008, 05:12 PM

First of all id like to say THANK YOU SWITCH atleast someone recognized what i was talking about. Now on to the rest of you. I would like to know why you would say that my opinions are not valid when i never made any comment about wether or not your opinions are valid. why cant you show me the same respect i give you. And obviously i dont know everything and i never said i did. But sense you people continue to ignor the valid issues and questions i put forward i dont see why anyone should care what you think. You put up this post and then dont want to have an actual debate with me because you are afraid you may lose to a 19 year old. even though age should hve nothing to do with it (cause this is supposed to be a group of mature gamers right) i find it insulting that you would disregard my opinion on basis of age. There are dumb kids and dumb adults.

I really wish you guys would reread my posts and actually answer my questions so maybe you can help me understand your position better. If you arent willing to debate like adults then you have no business creating threads with the intention of a debate.

and to answer SKUDS question i have had multiple run ins with police and i will share several of them with you.

I was arrested recently in livonia michigan. The police pulled over me and my friend (it wasnt my car and he was driving) and found a small amount of pot in the car. Now i am willing to take a punishment because i knew it was illegal and the arresting officers were polite and so was i. When we got to the station i was told i was going to talk to a narcotics detective and he would decide what would happen. After four hours in the cell i was led out and i talked to the detective. for the mostpart he was respectable but he didnt seem to understand who he was talking too (he was trying to get me to give him the name of a coke dealer ive never even seen cocaine in my life!) after the interview i was told that i would be out in an hour or two. I sat in that cell for 23 hours watching people come and go . I was the only person keept there that long that night. I was not allowed to make a phone call (noone knew where i was) and when i asked why i was threatened by the guards. When they finally let me out the guard said this "your a piece of **** drug dealer" i said i haddent been dealing drugs and wasnt even charged with possesion (i was charged with loitering dwere drugs are used) when we were in the side room where the keep your stuff the same guard said "what are you doing smoking pot pots for (insert n word here) you should be smoking crack like a good white boy" Ah the work of proffesionals. The kid who was arested with me was released only four hours after he got there and i was there for almost a full day.

My second story is when i was 17 i was smoking a cigarette on the sidewalk when the school liason officer came by and asked how old i was. I told him 17 and he told me to put out the cigarette and i did. He then had me empty my backpack on the ground (it had been raining and some of my school work was destroyed) and proceeded to search me. when it came time to check the crotch he did a full grab and asked me "is this all you sun?" that **** blew me away.

i will say that the cop that came to my house after it was robbed a few months ago was cool and i talk to him when i see him around. I don "hate" cops and if you dont get that yet then you need to learn to read. and if you arent going to answer any of the question or address any of the issues i put forth in my last several posts then dont respond to this cause i dont have time to argue with people who dont want a real debate.

Switch · 07-10-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta*RandyShugart*

read all of what Chris posted, and let me know if any of that falls under your above line from your post. I'm fine with the youth debating and speaking their mind, but when its chalked full of the ignorant arrogance that it is used to accuse others of, that is where i draw my line.

I was just noting how much I hate the line:
"You're X years old and you think know everything"
I wasn't offering a defense for chris or trying to validate his points. I didn't read most of what he said -- seemed kinda ranty. What I was pointing out was my distaste for the line quoted above. Chris's writing has no bearing on my statement.

I did read what Drizz wrote about police responsibility not including upholding the constitution and so I commented on that. That is certainly a ridiculous statement.

chris934 · 07-10-2008, 06:24 PM

And If i seem like im ranting i apologize i was just answering the questions i was asked, im not here to piss people off.

ScratchMonkey · 07-10-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkudDestroyer

I think the real problem is that people don't have an actual understanding of their civil liberties or miranda rights.

Given the constantly changing legal landscape, how would one have any hope of understanding one's rights without being a full time lawyer? Consider that the FISA "reform" bill just passed, adding a whole 'nother layer to the complexities of what constitutes one's rights.

Perhaps the best solution is to assume that we don't have any rights whatsoever and are simply bees in a hive, drones in a collective, and are subject to execution at whim. Be a good drone and don't make waves. (That's always been my approach, anyway.)

Switch · 07-11-2008, 06:20 PM

Was this legal use of police power?
Evicting and ticketing a person at a public venue for holding a sign that says "McCain=Bush"?

Was she disturbing the peace?

**edit**

I don't know for certain whether it was truely a public town hall meeting as everyone in the tape says or if it was a private event opened to the public -- that sounds retarded but there's a difference. If it was private then they can evict whomever they please. At this point it appears to be a public event.

Also, the guy in the bad suit said that the secret service instructed him to ask her to leave -- they deny it hard core. They already got in trouble for that a few times.

Also also, the officers were not being **** heads or ******** in the slightest -- but if this was truely a public event and they enforced her eviction it's dispicable.

07-09-2008, 06:46 PM	#346 (permalink)
Magnum50 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Naples, Florida USA Age: 42 Posts: 3,895	Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops... well it's obvious you can't or won't see the true picture, you are dead set that your opinion is correct and right, when I try and explain, you turn it back into another argument... I gave you a chance to get real answers you don't want them, so I'm done with you on this. __________________ Magnum www.gettacticaldammit.com

07-10-2008, 01:36 AM	#348 (permalink)
chris934 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: michigan (its cold) Age: 19 Posts: 276	Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops... .............k............... I think its interesting that the only responses i got this time were things like "Are you a cop? if not, then don't act that you know what cops want and don't want. You probably are pissed that cop broke up your keg party you were having in the woods this fourth of july." or this one that i thought was particularly mature "Chris, maybe you are at the age where "i hate everyone including my parents"". I have always found that when a person doest have a leg to stand on in an argument they will resort to petty remarks and stupid assumtions. Just because some of you had no idea what you were talking about when you were 19 doesnt mean we are all stupid. I dont understand why you would get so mad a someone for saying they hate cops when the name of the thread makes the assumption that anyone reading it does. I was just giving you what you wanted. When you make stupid assumptions you should expect someone to pull your chain. Now on to Drizzid who even though before he claimed he respected my opinions he had to attack them again so we will go point by point. 1. "1. Magnum isn't changing his opinion he is telling you that if a cop CAN avoid arresting someone then that is what they WOULD rather do because it does add a lot of work for them to do and no cop wants to arrest anyone towards the end of their shift especially. Magnum is just telling you the truth of what he does." Did you even read what he said? this is what he said the first time "The truth is, I am not a cop to "save lives" as everyone on COPS says, lol, true that is a bonus, and defending the victim is pure satisfaction... but I'm a cop because i like to take criminals to jail, I like to find them, chase them, then arrest them... it's fun..." This is what he said the second time " Most cops do not want to arrest to much, tons of paperwork, and tons of court, hell we try and ****can more then arrest. A kid with a bag of weed, funny, I sure don't want that arrest, alot of paperwork, got to baby sit them for hours, have to contact parents, court, probation hearings etc etc... a pain..." IF you cant see what im talking about then im not sure how much more clear i can be 2. "2. When you are pulled over or questioned by an officer the only way he can determine what kind of person you are is by obtaining information, reading body language and by the manner in which you handle yourself during the questioning. So if you want to know why a cop dictates the standard of respect as you call it, it is because that is part of their job. A police officer has to show that he is in control of any situation cause if he shows any sign of weakness that could cost him his life." They are suppose to be protecting us. but maybe "Your statement on this subject is so far off base it is ridicules so no point responding to it." hey wow that worked! 3."3. Your statement on this subject is so far off base it is ridicules so no point responding to it." did you even read what i wrote, im not putting any effort into this. 4."4. The constitution is used in making laws and determining if existing laws are constitutional or not. Police officers do NOT make laws they enforce those laws that are made by politicians and citizens who vote for those laws. There is a big difference!!" IM aware of that i went to the same high school civics classes you did. Its the job of the police to follow the laws as well. Let me repeat that FOLLOW the laws. if you are going to let the police decide what laws apply when then why even bother voting for laws and just let these police make them up Do you remember when i wrote"The only reason i said "i hate cops" so boldly without saying "but some are ok". Is Because the title of your thread made the assumption that i hated cops i guess i had to go along." For the slow among you that meant that i really dont hate all cops i only said it because of the retarded assumption that the name of the thread made it says "Ok, why do YOU hate cops" so i guess i had to give a reason And its funny that a 19 year old who apparently is so mad at the world and his parents (cause its impossible they are dead or anything right morons) could piss you off so much. i am only getting so hostile at this point because instead of having a real debate with me you just attacked my age. way to go im sure your friends at the station are proud. and dont take me to seriously you guys its all in fun

07-10-2008, 06:36 AM	#349 (permalink)
Drizzid Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Age: 37 Posts: 2,958	Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops... It must be nice to be 19yrs old and to know everything already! Your right Chris and everyone else that is twice your age is wrong. We are a bunch of idiots that don't know anything! You have successfully won! There is obviously no way that we might have a clue about what we are talking about. Maybe you should be a lawyer with all that knowledge you have about how the real world works. Maybe you can prosecute all those bad cops that are out there breaking all those laws. Oh and don't take me too seriously it's all in fun right. __________________

07-10-2008, 11:15 AM	#350 (permalink)
DeltaRandyShugart Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: With my roomates Posts: 2,069	Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops... Chris, I apologize if you lost your parents when you are young, and if i hurt you with the comment about you being at the age that you "hate your parents." I really don't believe that you were just posting to post, or taking the side of disliking law enforcement officials in this thread debate. I also cannot see when you decided to "just have fun with this", make some inane and rude comments towards persons/families of the law enforcement community, especially with this specific line: "Im not trying to piss people off to much so dont take offense. but this is probably the only chance ill have to tell a cop what i think without getting tazered or arrested." If you don't particularly enjoy the company of law enforcement officials, that is fine chris it is your right as an Adult and as an Adult citizen in the United States. (yes once you turn 18 in the U.S.A. you are considered an adult, and if you are arrested you will be tried as an adult) However you have to be ready to accept the rebuttals from other people in this thread concerning this topic, and your examples that you post will be replied to and different examples will be said to those, and yes I was a bit hostile because though I did read your replies from a objective point of view, i also read them from a personal point of view. are we having fun yet? __________________ BHD DeltaRandyShugart, \|USMC\|Capt.America - PR Fmr.Gov.EliotSpitzer#9 - Arma If someone isn't following SL or CO orders in game/being a smacktard report them by typing this in global chat: !REPORTING *Ask not what TG can do you for you, but what you* can do for TG. 9/11 - Never Forget**

07-10-2008, 12:55 PM	#352 (permalink)
TheSkudDestroyer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 3,203	Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops... OK, short question: Chris, have you had multiple run in's with the police? Also - I have a problem with people coming into threads and "just kidding around." That's like the idiot that decided being a complete stark racist was "just funny" and he only did it to get a rouse out of everyone.... __________________ \|TG-6th\|Skud 6.5 weeks Lackland AFB 8 months Keesler AFB, 1W0X1 - Weather The 6th Devils - Now with MORE Air Force! "...I simply stated "Video Games". They thought I was joking..."

07-10-2008, 05:12 PM	#356 (permalink)
chris934 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: michigan (its cold) Age: 19 Posts: 276	Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops... First of all id like to say THANK YOU SWITCH atleast someone recognized what i was talking about. Now on to the rest of you. I would like to know why you would say that my opinions are not valid when i never made any comment about wether or not your opinions are valid. why cant you show me the same respect i give you. And obviously i dont know everything and i never said i did. But sense you people continue to ignor the valid issues and questions i put forward i dont see why anyone should care what you think. You put up this post and then dont want to have an actual debate with me because you are afraid you may lose to a 19 year old. even though age should hve nothing to do with it (cause this is supposed to be a group of mature gamers right) i find it insulting that you would disregard my opinion on basis of age. There are dumb kids and dumb adults. I really wish you guys would reread my posts and actually answer my questions so maybe you can help me understand your position better. If you arent willing to debate like adults then you have no business creating threads with the intention of a debate. and to answer SKUDS question i have had multiple run ins with police and i will share several of them with you. I was arrested recently in livonia michigan. The police pulled over me and my friend (it wasnt my car and he was driving) and found a small amount of pot in the car. Now i am willing to take a punishment because i knew it was illegal and the arresting officers were polite and so was i. When we got to the station i was told i was going to talk to a narcotics detective and he would decide what would happen. After four hours in the cell i was led out and i talked to the detective. for the mostpart he was respectable but he didnt seem to understand who he was talking too (he was trying to get me to give him the name of a coke dealer ive never even seen cocaine in my life!) after the interview i was told that i would be out in an hour or two. I sat in that cell for 23 hours watching people come and go . I was the only person keept there that long that night. I was not allowed to make a phone call (noone knew where i was) and when i asked why i was threatened by the guards. When they finally let me out the guard said this "your a piece of ** drug dealer" i said i haddent been dealing drugs and wasnt even charged with possesion (i was charged with loitering dwere drugs are used) when we were in the side room where the keep your stuff the same guard said "what are you doing smoking pot pots for (insert n word here) you should be smoking crack like a good white boy" Ah the work of proffesionals. The kid who was arested with me was released only four hours after he got there and i was there for almost a full day. My second story is when i was 17 i was smoking a cigarette on the sidewalk when the school liason officer came by and asked how old i was. I told him 17 and he told me to put out the cigarette and i did. He then had me empty my backpack on the ground (it had been raining and some of my school work was destroyed) and proceeded to search me. when it came time to check the crotch he did a full grab and asked me "is this all you sun?" that ** blew me away. i will say that the cop that came to my house after it was robbed a few months ago was cool and i talk to him when i see him around. I don "hate" cops and if you dont get that yet then you need to learn to read. and if you arent going to answer any of the question or address any of the issues i put forth in my last several posts then dont respond to this cause i dont have time to argue with people who dont want a real debate.

07-10-2008, 06:24 PM	#358 (permalink)
chris934 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: michigan (its cold) Age: 19 Posts: 276	Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops... And If i seem like im ranting i apologize i was just answering the questions i was asked, im not here to piss people off.

07-11-2008, 06:20 PM	#360 (permalink)
Switch Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,167	Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops... Was this legal use of police power? Evicting and ticketing a person at a public venue for holding a sign that says "McCain=Bush"? Was she disturbing the peace? edit I don't know for certain whether it was truely a public town hall meeting as everyone in the tape says or if it was a private event opened to the public -- that sounds retarded but there's a difference. If it was private then they can evict whomever they please. At this point it appears to be a public event. Also, the guy in the bad suit said that the secret service instructed him to ask her to leave -- they deny it hard core. They already got in trouble for that a few times. Also also, the officers were not being ** heads or **** in the slightest -- but if this was truely a public event and they enforced her eviction it's dispicable. __________________ \|TG\|Switch** Better known as: That noob who crashed the chopper. That noob who ran over the mine. That noob who TK'd me with a sniper rifle. That noob who hit that APC at 300m with light AT! Our APC... Last edited by Switch; 07-11-2008 at 06:36 PM.

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