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Old 07-18-2008, 01:43 PM   #391 (permalink)
 
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Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops...

Recently we had a cop sitting in a driveway shooting radar on a 1 lane road near my house. This road is not a good road and there is no spot other than private property driveways to pull off for almost 6 miles. It would be a massive safety danager for him to hastilly pull out onto that road and even larger danager to actually pull anyone over unless he wanted to slow chase them for 6 miles (Its a 35mph zone).

I am all for keeping us safe on the roads but traps like this infuriate me because the cop was creating a dangerous environment for all of us on the road. My wife is writing in a letter about it too which we are going to send to several people here in our local govt.

Again, I do not hate the cops and I understand a basic need for order. I have a lot of respect for our men and women in uniform but this instance was totally unacceptable.
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:11 PM   #392 (permalink)
 
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The question above is kinda like a trap -- what are you expecting cops to say?

..If they're leafing through a maxim while the rest of the world goes by incident free -- go for it.

Oh, no, no.. don't get me wrong.. not meant as a trap. I guess I shaded my inquiry the wrong way by my comment after W6's. Purely unintentional.
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:57 PM   #393 (permalink)
 
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Ok this is going to come as a shock but I actually agree with Switch on this one LOL!!
Since Drizzid agrees with me I'm going to have to change my position.
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:47 PM   #394 (permalink)
 
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Since Drizzid agrees with me I'm going to have to change my position.
LOL!! I hope that is a joke cause if it is it's freakin funny
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:04 PM   #395 (permalink)
 
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http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07...ath/index.html

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Old 07-25-2008, 12:01 AM   #396 (permalink)
 
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After reading the article it sounds to me as if this officer over stepped his authority and got carried away. I don't necessarily agree with the race card being thrown out there at the first opportunity. It is possible that it could be a racially motivated but doubtful in my opinion.

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"He's fighting, wrestling with an individual who weighs 100 pounds more than him," he said. "His partner had just come back to the police department from triple bypass surgery and could not assist Officer Nugent."
I do think the department as a whole might be held responsible because they put a man back on the streets that was clearly not ready to do his job due to health problems. Who knows, if that officer was able to do his job maybe the accused officer wouldn't had felt the need to taser a defenseless man, albeit a criminal, but none the less a defenseless man.
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:01 AM   #397 (permalink)
 
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Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops...

Title of the linked story is "Man dies after cop hits him with Taser 9 times". It sounds like the first 7 tasings were justified in the initial scuffle but that the later ones at the station were some kind of vendetta, at least the way the story is presented.
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:56 AM   #398 (permalink)
 
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The guy probably deserved it...cracked out bastard!

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Old 07-25-2008, 11:04 AM   #399 (permalink)
 
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"the family wants justice" what a load of BS, cnn loves stuff like this, they can wrap it around their fingers, and promote the race card, hell cnn throws the race card out in the first place.........

There really must be nothing going on this summer......I really don't feel this news story needs national attention, it was 5 paragraphs too long.
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:10 PM   #400 (permalink)
 
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Excellent combination of the genetic fallacy with the red herring fallacy.
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:59 PM   #401 (permalink)
 
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Sordavie...how do you remember all these logical fallacies? Just wondering, you always seem to know what you're talking about.
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Old 07-25-2008, 01:08 PM   #402 (permalink)
 
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Yea what BS! What kind of family would want justice after they lose a family member to repeated tasings while restrained and in custody. Total BS!

Whats next, soon people will expect police officers to obey the law!


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Sori just makes it up because he knows we don't know better. :P
haha, fair enough, fair enough.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:13 PM   #404 (permalink)
 
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Only the most common fallacies are named, so there really aren't that many of them to remember. You might find 20 in a typical critical thinking textbook. In ordinary discussion like the ones found in the sandbox, there are, probably, only a few kinds of mistakes in reasoning that are made over and over. So, you just have to remember a few most common ones, and become good at recognizing them in passages of writing
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:43 PM   #405 (permalink)
 
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Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops...

@ Delta: I'm hoping your meaning that it's BS of the somewhat biased media attention playing the race card at first chance they get (if so I agree), if you mean that it's BS that the family wants justice for something like this that happened (after a man already cuffed gets tasered to death then put in a squad car, taken to police station and tasered twice more) then thats just ****ed up.

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