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Old 08-05-2008, 03:30 PM   #481 (permalink)
 
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and please... if you appreciate the cops...THANKS, big thanks, but don't need to reply here... it's not a poll, lol.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:44 PM   #482 (permalink)
 
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well then i guess i am outnumbered, and yes its been a while since i read the first post.....

so i guess we should all hate the cops, hate them for protecting us, hate them for the unwarranted arrests criminals, murders, rapists, pedophiles, terrorist cells, robbers, drug dealers, how could they do such horrible things, i bet all those warrants were phony and or were handed out with forged signatures......

we should all be able to carry any amount of drugs in our cars that we wish, and if there are laws in regards to having guns in ones vehicle/carrying them concealed, than that's wrong and goes against our rights, while we are on this topic we need to hate the government and the laws put down by each individual state, and make it our duty as citizens of the country america that we fight the power! and make it so we can write our own legislative and judicial laws so no one can put their hands on us or make us put our hands up!!!!!!!
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:46 PM   #483 (permalink)
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so i can only post negative things about the police? i find it funny bc i believe magnum is a police officer or a retired police officer......and in reality he might be asking why "you" meaning "US the readers of this forum dislike the police" but that doesn't mean i can't post reason's why i respect and like the police, and feel that if someone posts a negative article on the police why i can't post a positive article about the police......so yes you post something negative, but i post something positive. agree to disagree?
You are missing the point. We arent saying that all cops do bad things, we are only saying that the police who do not follow the law discredit the whole law enforcement community, and instead of admitting that their policies are allowing rogue police to violate people rights, they are dismissing these police as "bad apples". A bad apple is a fruit that has lost its taste and has become bruised and rotten. What these bad cops are is people who feel that their badge gives them free reign to trample on the rights of innocents and criminals alike (remember no matter who much you dont like it these criminals have the same rights as you and are innocent until proven guilty.)

Now that last comment may make you think that im defending criminals....well you are right. If the police conduct their activities in a criminal and unconstitutional manner they are doing more damage to the society then the criminal, because these police have been trusted with upholding the law and when they dont (even with good intentions) they are sending the message to the american people that they have no more respect for the law then the criminals.

The cops seem to get away with immoral and criminal behavior by saying "we risk our lives every day at our jobs". So? People in the military risk their lives in a much more real way and yet they dont get immunity from any illegal action they may take. We have to be willing to hold the police responsible for their actions and not let them dictate how our communities will be run. The police work for the people not the other way around.

The number one thing the police could do to make me like them a whole lot more would be to open investigations into any officer accused of questionable activity. Hold higher standards for entry into law enforcement. Deal with racists and bigots in the force. And to stop going out of their way to protect these rogue officers and to stop minimizing their crimes and activities by dismissing them as "bad apples" or any other meaningless term that removes responsibility from the police as a whole.

As citizens we need to be aware of our rights. We need to assert ourselves in order to make it harder for these rogue police to violate the rights of ourselves and others. This mean reading up on local and state laws. learning what really constitutes probable cause. Knowing when we are being illegally searched and to voice our dissent (but never fight with the police). And that we video tape police encounters whenever possible so that we know that an independent source of evidence can help deter these police. It is the responsibility of the police and citizens alike to make sure that everyone whether they are wearing a badge or not are held to the standards that our society demands of law abiding responsible citizens.
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:09 PM   #484 (permalink)
 
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and please... if you appreciate the cops...THANKS, big thanks, but don't need to reply here... it's not a poll, lol.

and please DO NOT bash anyone who shares there opinion or answers this post, I asked for it.

and please don't tell me you play my salary!


BTW: I ask this here because for 20 years I've worked nights, sleep and game during the day... so NO, I have no friends outside of law enforcement.

everyone please disregard everything i have said
........throw it out the window like drug smugglers/dealers/ do when they are being chased by the police or if they are in a boat they throw it overboard......
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:32 PM   #485 (permalink)
 
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we should all be able to carry any amount of drugs in our cars that we wish, and if there are laws in regards to having guns in ones vehicle/carrying them concealed, than that's wrong and goes against our rights
I agree. Well, unless the weight makes the vehicle unstable or the stuff creates a visual hazard by blocking the mirrors.
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No matter what, there will always be negative things that people write about the police, or there will be screw ups made by the police both by accident or deliberate, but you shouldn't automatically assume (i don't assume, but "you" [not trying to single you out switch]) the worst.
an accident is breaking your mother-in-law's favourite vase. A screw-up is forgetting you're girlfriend's anniversary and birthday in the the same month. Shooting an innocent woman in the chest and neck in front of her 5 children, one of whom she was holding, and who also got slightly caught by one of the bullets, is not quite in the same league.
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:46 AM   #487 (permalink)
 
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Re: Ok, why do YOU hate the cops...

LoL @ this cop who thinks she's entitled to free coffee.

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Cop demands free coffee, but not at this Starbucks

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BY FRANK MAIN Crime Reporter

Talk about jonesing for a cup of coffee.

A Chicago Police officer has been suspended and ordered into counseling after she was found guilty of demanding free Starbucks coffee from six different stores on the North Side from 2001 to 2004, sometimes flashing her badge, displaying her gun and screaming at employees.
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A Chicago Police officer has been suspended and ordered into counseling after she was found guilty of demanding free Starbucks coffee from six different stores on the North Side.




Officer Barbara Nevers of the Belmont police district was suspended for more than 15 months, according to records the Chicago Police Board released Thursday.

On Aug. 24, 2004, she flashed her badge to get free coffee at the Starbucks at 3358 N. Broadway, the board found.

Nevers exhibited similar behavior at Starbucks stores at 2525 1/2 N. Clark, 617 W. Diversey, 1000 W. Diversey, 1700 W. Diversey and 1157 W. Wrightwood — sometimes demanding free coffee, yelling when they refused her demands and showing her weapon, the board found.

On July 12, 2004 at the store at 617 W. Diversey, she took a bottle of juice without paying, the civilian disciplinary panel found.

In June, five members of the police board found her guilty of retail theft, using her position for official gain, unnecessary display of a weapon, mistreatment of a person and other offenses. They voted for Nevers’ 15-month suspension and counseling.

Two board members dissented, saying they would have imposed a stricter punishment, records show.

In other decisions released Thursday by the police board:

— Sgt. Nicholas M. Ortega, 46, was fired after he was found guilty of entering a bar in uniform, giving a ride to an unauthorized person in his squad car and having sex with a woman in or near the sergeants’ office in the Grand-Central police district on the Northwest Side in 2005. Coincidentally, the bar he entered was called Grand Central Station in the 5700 block of West Grand, records show.

— Officer Kevin Waters was fired after he was found guilty of threatening to slit a man’s throat in a bar in southwest suburban Merrionette Park, using a racial epithet and lying to Chicago Police Internal Affairs investigators.

— Officer Cardinal Castillo was fired after he was found guilty of striking a woman in the face and leaving profane voice mails on her answering machine in 2004 and 2005.

— Officer Robert E. Taylor Sr. was fired after he was found guilty of perjury before a judge in 2004. He was accused of being married to two women at the same time.

— Officer Joseph Battaglia was suspended for more than 15 months after he was found guilty of telling Trotter’s to Go restaurant employees in 2004 that he had confiscated “weed” and asked if they wanted some.

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Old 08-08-2008, 12:17 PM   #488 (permalink)
 
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I agree. Well, unless the weight makes the vehicle unstable or the stuff creates a visual hazard by blocking the mirrors.
Your ideals have grown on me scratch, also this coffee debacle is ridiculous.
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Heres the newest fuel for your fires:


article about it @: http://www.infowars.com/?p=3865
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article about it @: http://www.infowars.com/?p=3865
staged/shopped.
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Shopped? Any evidence of this ---?

Here's a news article on the incident.
http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps...306210003/1004
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Shopped? Any evidence of this ---?

Here's a news article on the incident.
http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps...306210003/1004
shopped.
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The news report is shopped?

Here's another one: http://www.wistv.com/global/story.asp?s=8538090
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Randy thinks its shopped because if it weren't it would prove the points we have been making.
Ahh Randy truth hurts doesn't it?
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Mr Shugart has just been given a high dosage of ownage, provided by the gracious Switch.
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