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Old 12-27-2007, 06:30 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I hope everyone alive at this moment is aware that we're heading much deeper into the rabit hole. Musharraf suspended their constitution even though he isn't even legally capable of doing such a thing. All its going to take is a similar incident here in america (most likely in the coming election) for us to take to the streets and writhe in protest and demand justice, like they are, for bush to suspend the constitution and effectively become "emperor bush."

I know you're all going to ridicule me for saying this, but save it. Just watch your lives and freedom whittle away, very slowly, over the next few months.

I hope and pray people realize what is happening and take a moment to turn their tvs off and actually see what is going on, instead of thinking about what is going to happen.

The only way we can stop this is if we stop it now, here. Our constitution cannot be suspended. If it somehow is branded into the public's minds that our government has the power to do that, we have lost our freedom.

If wanting to live free in my country, or Pakistan, or any country where freedom is a part of its livelyhood, makes me a terrorist, I'd certainly rather be a terrorist.

Its quite obvious that the assassination was conducted indirectly by the CIA and international partners. Welcome to the 50s all over again.
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Old 12-27-2007, 07:00 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
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Its quite obvious that the assassination was conducted indirectly by the CIA and international partners. Welcome to the 50s all over again.
What gave it away? The bullet through the neck or the kid blowing himself up?

Seriously, I tried to empathize with the rest of your post...but this last statement...that's a pretty heavy statement to just throw down not even 24 hours after the incident. There's not even an investigation underway yet. This is about as absurd to me as G.W. and company quickly coming out to point their fingers at "islamic extremists." The truth is...it's too early for you or me or anyone else who wasn't involved to know what the truth is. And unless you're privvy to some kind of inside information, then I'm fairly certain you're just watching the news along with the rest of us. Armchair ignorance is still ignorance.
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Seconded, Atomic.

Mentholated, what exactly gives you the idea Bush even wants to remain in office past his term? If anything, this coming election is looking like one of the best and most exciting elections we've had in a long time.
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...Pakistan, or any country where freedom is a part of its livelyhood...
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Do we, even the future president, have any choice now but to support Musharraf?

And I bet India is gearing up a bit.

And of course with Pakistan in turmoil and India possibly getting a bit defensive I wonder what China is doing? Can Russia see this as some kind of threat or even an opportunity?

Hmmm. Yes Cing, scary is the word.
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Old 12-27-2007, 08:10 PM   #36 (permalink)
 
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I don't see how this is any diversion from the status quo. They only understand brute force over there. Since when have they ever had democratic elections?
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I don't see how this is any diversion from the status quo. They only understand brute force over there. Since when have they ever had democratic elections?
Methinks you need to read up on Indian/Pakistani history...
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Yeah Ganhdi was a real violent man.
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What gave it away? The bullet through the neck or the kid blowing himself up?

Seriously, I tried to empathize with the rest of your post...but this last statement...that's a pretty heavy statement to just throw down not even 24 hours after the incident. There's not even an investigation underway yet. This is about as absurd to me as G.W. and company quickly coming out to point their fingers at "islamic extremists." The truth is...it's too early for you or me or anyone else who wasn't involved to know what the truth is. And unless you're privvy to some kind of inside information, then I'm fairly certain you're just watching the news along with the rest of us. Armchair ignorance is still ignorance.
Yes, the bullet through the neck. Not the neck per se, the brain stem. She was shot in the brain stem and heart so that she would die immediately. Just the way a sniper would do it. Obviously the assassination was done by "islamic extremists" as our propaganda tells us, but even they are unaware of the fact that they are being manipulated into doing what they're doing, covertly, by the CIA and its international synonymous intelligence organizations.

I don't know if majestic-12 still exists, but they certainly would go as far as that to destabilize a foreign power. A lot of people think we wouldn't do it (kill her) because shes "democracy friendly." They're wrong. Killing her, tactically, was a wonderful thing for the US. It has forced Musharraf to turn to extreme totalitarian rule, giving us another saber to rattle.
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Yeah Ganhdi was a real violent man.

Ganhdi was shot dead
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Methinks you need to read up on Indian/Pakistani history...
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Ignoring the political trolls,

Here's mourning a patriot, a fine states(wo)man, and a needless loss of human life.
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Care to elaborate Mr. Caveman.
No. Why don't you tell us when they have ever had democratic elections?
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Democracy vs the middle east scoreboard:
Palestine vs Democracy = hamas
Iraq vs Democracy = cesspool (no government)
Nice track record lets add Pakistan to the list.

There is no democracy in any Arab country. They don't even have a word for it. Why does the US think everything will be ok if everyone just does what we say.

Musharraf had her killed for challenging his power. That is how they have had elections for thousands of years. The west should mind their own damn business.
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Democracy vs the middle east scoreboard:
Palestine vs Democracy = hamas
Iraq vs Democracy = cesspool (no government)
Nice track record lets add Pakistan to the list.

There is no democracy in any Arab country. They don't even have a word for it. Why does the US think everything will be ok if everyone just does what we say.

Musharraf had her killed for challenging his power. That is how they have had elections for thousands of years. The west should mind their own damn business.
It was either that ... or al-qaeda did it for tactical purposes only, to destabilize the country... which I think is a bit more likely. They want to make it look like he did it so the people rise up against him and stage a coup detat. They learned it all from Cia-Cia pet.
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