lastest from Pakistan - Page 4

**Hambergler** · 12-28-2007, 05:57 PM

India and Pakistan got there independence at the same time. The difference is the first line of the Pakistani constitution states Pakistan will be a Muslim country. IMHO every word after that negates democracy.

The democracy that they had in the past was just on paper, similar to how it was with Saddam in Iraq. Worthless.

Although they may not be Arab per say, that is the closest comparison.

ISI, Pakistani Military, Al Qaeda, Taliban are all in bed together. And Musharraf is the ring leader. He is a terrorist.

**CingularDuality** · 12-28-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambergler

India and Pakistan got there independence at the same time. The difference is the first line of the Pakistani constitution states Pakistan will be a Muslim country. IMHO every word after that negates democracy.

Prejudice FTW!

You don't think that Pakistan's Indian history makes them a bit different?

**Hambergler** · 12-28-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Prejudice FTW!

You don't think that Pakistan's Indian history makes them a bit different?

Prejudice? Whatever dude. I don't know where you get from. Any country that is a theocracy first cannot have a successful democracy.

**Dick Blonov** · 12-28-2007, 06:17 PM

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You're trying to compare Pakistan to the Middle East? C'mon, man...

«The Eisenhower Doctrine, a 1957 foreign policy of the United States government, was the first to officially use the term Middle East.[9] Secretary of State John Foster Dulles defined the Middle East as "the area lying between and including Libya on the west and Pakistan on the east and Turkey on the North and the Arabian peninsula to the south, plus the Sudan and Ethiopia."[9] In 1958, the State Department explained that the terms "Near East" and "Middle East" were interchangeable, and defined the region as including only Egypt, Syria, Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar.[13]»

They might be back...

edit: One point of view

DB

Atomic Dog · 12-28-2007, 07:04 PM

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Hmmm...I heard reports from the hospital that said it was the bullet severing her spine that caused her death 2 hours later in the hospital.

Edit: Guess I was wrong!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...kistan.friday/

The more and more I think about this, the more and more I realize that the truth is so obscured by the different factions and their conflicting statements as to her cause of death. I don't think I'm going to trust much until an investigation has been conducted. As it is, they buried her without so much as an autopsy. So all of these statements are subject to skepticism.

**Gillespie** · 12-29-2007, 02:52 PM

Even the skepticism of the given conclusions should be subjected to an investigation. The results of said investigation should be treated with diligent skepticism before drawing future conclusions to be "skepticized" and investigated. Only then will we be presented with solid conclusions grounded in fact which can spawn proper conspiracy theories. Which must be investigated and treated with skepticism.

**TheSkudDestroyer** · 12-29-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambergler

Prejudice? Whatever dude. I don't know where you get from. Any country that is a theocracy first cannot have a successful democracy.

Isnt Israel a "Jewish State?"

What makes Israel's "Jewish State" different from a "Muslim State"?

**VegaBond** · 12-29-2007, 07:42 PM

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The only reson we aren't in Pakistan right now is because they have nukes. Musharraf is as two faced as they come. He puts on a show for us, takes our money and gives it right to the Taliban and Al Qaeda to the tune of $5 Billion. If he was not in bed with the Taliban he would have no power at all.

Although Bush is a retard and I would like to pin this on him. They have had an insurgency trying to take over the country for 50 years, this is nothing new and doesn't have anything to do with us.

Thats basically what I'm saying at work when we discuss our weekly political discussions.. Its just totally messed up right now and she was just pretty much all we had to bring back stability but still was corrupt...

**Hambergler** · 12-29-2007, 07:49 PM

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Isnt Israel a "Jewish State?"

What makes Israel's "Jewish State" different from a "Muslim State"?

A theology works great if you put the majority of the population behind a wall.

**TheSkudDestroyer** · 12-29-2007, 08:23 PM

Good. Just making sure you recognized that Israel is in the same boat.

12-28-2007, 05:57 PM	#46 (permalink)
Hambergler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Age: 33 Posts: 963	Re: lastest from Pakistan India and Pakistan got there independence at the same time. The difference is the first line of the Pakistani constitution states Pakistan will be a Muslim country. IMHO every word after that negates democracy. The democracy that they had in the past was just on paper, similar to how it was with Saddam in Iraq. Worthless. Although they may not be Arab per say, that is the closest comparison. ISI, Pakistani Military, Al Qaeda, Taliban are all in bed together. And Musharraf is the ring leader. He is a terrorist. __________________

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Gillespie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 924	Re: lastest from Pakistan Even the skepticism of the given conclusions should be subjected to an investigation. The results of said investigation should be treated with diligent skepticism before drawing future conclusions to be "skepticized" and investigated. Only then will we be presented with solid conclusions grounded in fact which can spawn proper conspiracy theories. Which must be investigated and treated with skepticism. __________________ <ArmA Information/SOPs> <ArmA Admin Team> <TG Req. Reading>

12-29-2007, 08:23 PM	#55 (permalink)
TheSkudDestroyer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 2,466	Re: lastest from Pakistan Good. Just making sure you recognized that Israel is in the same boat. __________________ Skud is DELAYED to later in July or August Gentlemen's Agreement: HAT Sniping \| I love TG - You do too! \| Farewell, TG

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