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Old 12-13-2007, 05:38 PM   #136 (permalink)
 
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If Wal-Mart hired and assigned public gang-rape specialists who greet you in the store and say "We're here to gang rape you" and then proceed with the act then they can. The employees hired and tasked with the duty of acting out the gang-rape would then acting out of the policy of the store and protected by following store policy. However, Walmart itself would come under fire for having policies justifying that act which is illegal.

In short. You file charges against Walmart instead of the walmart employees if you were gang raped by their authorized gang rape specialists hired with that task in mind with a stature in the policies allowing it.

Thanks Tarenth now i can't shop at Wal-Mart anymore.
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:10 AM   #137 (permalink)
 
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Thanks Tarenth now i can't shop at Wal-Mart anymore.
Why would you shop there in the first place?

Its supporting modern age slavery.
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:47 PM   #138 (permalink)

 
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Because it's the only game in town. Monopolies are self-sutstaining like that.
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Old 12-15-2007, 03:21 PM   #139 (permalink)
 
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Wal-Mart isn't a monopoly. They're just better at what they do than most of their competitors. And that's why we go there.

I know several people who refuse to shop at Wal-Mart because they consider it evil. And they get along just fine. You don't have to shop at Wal-Mart to survive. But those of us who choose to use Wal-Mart find that we can get most things for less money, which suits us just fine.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:14 AM   #140 (permalink)
 
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Wal-Mart isn't a monopoly. They're just better at what they do than most of their competitors. And that's why we go there.

I know several people who refuse to shop at Wal-Mart because they consider it evil. And they get along just fine. You don't have to shop at Wal-Mart to survive. But those of us who choose to use Wal-Mart find that we can get most things for less money, which suits us just fine.
Yeah, they're not better. They're cheaper and more efficient, and the price you pay is the support of modern slavery.

Sad thing is, the slaves are voluntary.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:17 AM   #141 (permalink)
 
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Dude what are you talking about.
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Old 12-16-2007, 11:04 AM   #142 (permalink)
 
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Dude what are you talking about.
You didn't read the pamphlet? It's all in there.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:13 AM   #143 (permalink)

 
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:16 PM   #144 (permalink)
 
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I don't shop at Wal Mart - I haven't been in a Wal Mart store since the one and only time I experienced a 'supercenter' for myself. That was over two years ago. Those who think you're always getting the lowest price are actually wrong, though. One of WM's evil practices is the old bait and switch - they lure you in by undercutting prices on certain items, and even market their 'low low' prices, but their prices on average goods tend to be just that - average, or even above average. Even on the cheapest goods, they are par with any other big box (or even non-big box) discounter. There are lots of comparisons out there, but go and see for yourself if you wish.

There are other, more important reasons that I refuse to support this company. If you want to know what they are, go and see the old post that Randomguy has so kindly linked.
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Wal-Mart Super Center is the convenience store of Retail. Most people would choose not to shop there for good that could be had at other places, but if it saves driving to different locations for everyday goods.

At least in my area, Wal-Mart pays better than the other equivalent jobs. To suggest the employment practices of Wal-Mart are equal to slavery, is just silly. Wal-Mart was great when I was in high school and needed some extra summer money during college. I personally had less responsibility and more pay than I would have doing any other near minimum wage job.

I don't shop at Wal-Mart because it's too crowded when I could do my shopping and the Target is closer. Maybe it's how I look at shopping though, convenience before price.
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Old 12-19-2007, 03:18 AM   #146 (permalink)
 
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It's a shame I wasn't able to respond earlier...
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Both of your scenarios have big holes. Warrants are necessary for home raids and police do have to identify themselves as such, to my knowledge. Not that most people could tell a decent fake badge from a real one. I do believe police make mistakes. The point I am trying to make is that the officer making the mistake is not the one to take it up with. Especially at the time of the incident. Follow up properly and save everyone a big hassle. Warrants are signed by judges after a case is brought before them. Mistakes in address or intel could lead to your scenario, but in general a raid on a home has gone through a few filters.

Also, read your local laws. Obtaining and using a driving license is consenting to a great many things. In most states I would guess it's the same as in Florida. By driving, you agree to submit to DUI tests(which you should always refuse if you are intoxicated, you'll go to jail anyway, but just for refusing the test) and searches with probable cause(up to the officer), etc. Yeah, they basically mean any officer can pull you over and give you a hard time for any reason, but they are law and you did consent to drive.
In my "scenarios" I never mentioned driving a car. I in fact know that by owning a drivers license you consent to many things. On the first day of driving school they tell you, "Driving is a privilege, not a right", and it certainly isn't a right. I don't see it granted under our bill of rights.

If you are presented with a situation where your house is raided using a search warent then they have a search warant. That's a different situation entirely.

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You're implying that that's something the police typically do... Shame on you.

Why do you say this? If you're a lawbreaker and the police catch you, what does it matter if they tell you what you already know? You'll be formally charged later in the process, after you're in jail, have been photographed and fingerprinted and stand in front of a magistrate.

See, here's where we disagree. You say police are often wrong. I say they're seldom wrong. Sure, there are mistakes made, and those mistakes are often horrible when seen from the perspective of the victim of the mistake, and there are also bad cops. But the vast majority of the time, our cops and our justice system work well.
See that's just it. I'm not implying this happens all the time. I'm quick to point out that it is rare, however when a human life is at stake sometimes an event isn't rare enough. When industrial accidents happen at the cost of someone's life too often a year we're usually up in arms about that, especially if it's preventable.

Why are we accepting these atrocities and saying, it's ok? If someone asks what they're charged with, is it really gonna hurt to tell them? And I'm not talking about the times when you have committed a crime, I'm trying to remain optimistic of the individual, albeit a bit pessimistic of "the man". What if you have in fact done nothing wrong? If the police do put you in handcuffs wouldn't you like to know right away what is going on?

It's a scary and compromising situation already. Why do you people think only the guilty will suffer and the innocent won't be bothered when we have evidence of specific cases for the contrary?!

Please if I have any facts wrong please let me know. I have my own inferences and opinions but if anything I have claimed as fact is in fact a fallacy, please let me know.
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It's a shame I wasn't able to respond earlier...
In my "scenarios" I never mentioned driving a car. I in fact know that by owning a drivers license you consent to many things. On the first day of driving school they tell you, "Driving is a privilege, not a right", and it certainly isn't a right. I don't see it granted under our bill of rights.

If you are presented with a situation where your house is raided using a search warent then they have a search warant. That's a different situation entirely.

See that's just it. I'm not implying this happens all the time. I'm quick to point out that it is rare, however when a human life is at stake sometimes an event isn't rare enough. When industrial accidents happen at the cost of someone's life too often a year we're usually up in arms about that, especially if it's preventable.

Why are we accepting these atrocities and saying, it's ok? If someone asks what they're charged with, is it really gonna hurt to tell them? And I'm not talking about the times when you have committed a crime, I'm trying to remain optimistic of the individual, albeit a bit pessimistic of "the man". What if you have in fact done nothing wrong? If the police do put you in handcuffs wouldn't you like to know right away what is going on?

It's a scary and compromising situation already. Why do you people think only the guilty will suffer and the innocent won't be bothered when we have evidence of specific cases for the contrary?!

Please if I have any facts wrong please let me know. I have my own inferences and opinions but if anything I have claimed as fact is in fact a fallacy, please let me know.
I can't speak for anyone, but my personal SOP when dealing with a cop is reason before action. If I'm on the receiving end of an action without a reason, I respond with action. However, when dealing with the man you have to be wary that "the action" is precisely what they're waiting for.. so you have to appear to be compliant if you really want to defend yourself against the man. All humans let their guard down, and at the level of strangers, police or civilian, we're all just animals trying to survive and be free. And freedom comes with a price. Are you willing to pay with your body for my freedom, man? Notice I said body, not life. You can restrain someone's body, force their body to comply.. but you can't touch their will.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:33 PM   #148 (permalink)

 
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"but you can't touch their will."

You seem to be new to this game.
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Old 12-21-2007, 03:17 AM   #149 (permalink)
 
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"but you can't touch their will."

You seem to be new to this game.
Haha, and yet we still as a country deny Water-boarding to be torture... sad days
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Old 12-21-2007, 03:37 AM   #150 (permalink)
 
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"but you can't touch their will."

You seem to be new to this game.
If thats what you have to say, then yes. I must be new. Only the new could possibly replace the old.

For instance, lets think about kevlar for a second. A few decades ago it was the newest form of armor, and combined with ballistic plates they performed pretty well. But some people realized, maybe if we make sidearms that chamber nato rounds they might penetrate the armor.

Some cops still carry level III retentive holsters, for instance.

New replaces old.
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