Out of Curiousity... - Page 2

Steeler · 12-05-2007, 01:04 PM

I have a couple family friends who have done extensive contract work for various agencies, and they would tend to agree with MDFubar. There is a tremendous amount of stuff going on that is hidden from public view regarding technology and space development. Not Area 51, lasers in space, or alien conspiracy stuff, but significant investments in satellite, communications, and propulsion technology that few people really have any contact with.

That being said, Bad Astronomy has the whole moon landing faked theory pretty locked up, among other things.

mentholated · 12-08-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Azura

Last night as I was packing stuff up in my room, I kept finding things that I thought were well past lost by now. I stumbled across a paper I seemed to have printed out about the Conspiracy Theory about the Moon Landing. According to this "theory" (not much proof) it states that it was filmed prior to the actual landing to be used as a propaganda against the Reds. Well out of curiosity I kept reading and I guess the flag was waving in the picture and, I guess some guy was able to forensically analyze the picture and there is some sort of light residue possibly coming off stage lights....

.........

Sounds like a load of crap to me. Not to be rude, but does anyone actually believe in this bull? I can see if once you believe in it but what about all these other space missions, perhaps you changed your mind. I thought it sort of funny because I can understand during the times it would be popular but looking ahead, I'm starting to see where all these crazy ideas come from.

...Just in.... George Bush is actually OJ Simpson, some conspiracy theorist has a picture or Bush taking off an OJ mask!

Actually, I haven't thought about this before but as I was on the train heading to the midwest last month to visit family I had a discussion at around 1 am with this game programmer who worked with various "military colleges" during the 80s and early 90s on training simulators, and he led on to me that during the cold war, a lot of the capabilities the US proclaimed to have developed before the russians we didn't actually have. Part of the whole reason we "won" the cold war (and world war 2) is because we were able to trick the ruskies into thinking we were far more capable than we actually were. So, the moon landing conspiracies may have some truth to them. There is also those in the science camp who analyzed the technology available during that time which was supposedly used in the landing module and crew compartments that "couldn't have shielded any living thing from the levels of radiation outside of the earths magnetic field."

**CingularDuality** · 12-09-2007, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mentholated

There is also those in the science camp who analyzed the technology available during that time which was supposedly used in the landing module and crew compartments that "couldn't have shielded any living thing from the levels of radiation outside of the earths magnetic field."

The technology to shield against radiation hasn't significantly changed in the last 50 years!

**Jakaleel** · 12-09-2007, 02:37 PM

The spacecraft shielding was a calculated gamble. The amount of shielding for an earth orbit or moon shot is limited by weight. The LEM was about a beer can thickness. The Apollo astronauts reported seeing flashes in their eyeballs, thought to be cosmic radiation. A major radiation event such as a solar flare and they would be soo screwed.

ScratchMonkey · 12-09-2007, 04:03 PM

That's probably the biggest challenge to a manned Mars mission.

I was a big L5 fan in the late 70's and early 80's. The L5 movement was a movement to establish permanent city-size stations in orbit to process lunar and asteroid ore into orbital solar power stations, which would beam the power to fields of microwave receivers on the ground, typically over cropland.

Shielding from cosmic rays requires very thick and heavy layers of material. If you don't have enough, it actually makes the problem worse, because the fast cosmic ray particles hit the shielding and generate bursts of even more deadly secondary particles. They're slower and more massive, so they have more chance to interact with stationary particles (ie. human tissue).

12-05-2007, 01:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
Steeler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Taxachusetts Age: 30 Posts: 2,925	Re: Out of Curiousity... I have a couple family friends who have done extensive contract work for various agencies, and they would tend to agree with MDFubar. There is a tremendous amount of stuff going on that is hidden from public view regarding technology and space development. Not Area 51, lasers in space, or alien conspiracy stuff, but significant investments in satellite, communications, and propulsion technology that few people really have any contact with. That being said, Bad Astronomy has the whole moon landing faked theory pretty locked up, among other things. __________________

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Jakaleel Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Capital District Posts: 439	Re: Out of Curiousity... The spacecraft shielding was a calculated gamble. The amount of shielding for an earth orbit or moon shot is limited by weight. The LEM was about a beer can thickness. The Apollo astronauts reported seeing flashes in their eyeballs, thought to be cosmic radiation. A major radiation event such as a solar flare and they would be soo screwed. __________________ \|TG-21\| Jakaleel SAAW Team New to TG? Start here - 21st Tactical Wiki -There are some forms of insanity which, driven to an ultimate expression, can become the new models of sanity. --BuSab Manual Ad mortem talem navis et peditis

12-09-2007, 04:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 3,915	Re: Out of Curiousity... That's probably the biggest challenge to a manned Mars mission. I was a big L5 fan in the late 70's and early 80's. The L5 movement was a movement to establish permanent city-size stations in orbit to process lunar and asteroid ore into orbital solar power stations, which would beam the power to fields of microwave receivers on the ground, typically over cropland. Shielding from cosmic rays requires very thick and heavy layers of material. If you don't have enough, it actually makes the problem worse, because the fast cosmic ray particles hit the shielding and generate bursts of even more deadly secondary particles. They're slower and more massive, so they have more chance to interact with stationary particles (ie. human tissue).

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